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Ch0mp
April 3rd, 2012, 06:29 PM
Hello there! Welcome to a [How To Convert To Bomb From Ghost] Guide by BooN.

A few questions I'd like to answer before I start.

Q: When did I start playing MAT?

About Around May 2011.

Q: I hear you have gotten banned before, hacker!

False, yes I have gotten banned before, but it was for seven days do to altering with subagames MAT folder and deleting the chat filter. A screenshot was sent in that subagames showed me wit me saying a curse word and I was given a
7 day ban.

Q: Do you have any other accounts?

Yes I am known by plenty of names such as Chomp,Chompy,FlusH,LuckyPanda,BooN. People who have known me for a longer
period of time call me chomp, but my name won't ever be changing again.

Q: What clan are you in?

I am a ReDefined Member and always will be. If all of us ever play again then I will return to that clan. For now I am with friends in DevilzFlipKrew. Also, none of us hack just to get this cleared.

Q: Are you the best mat player?

Of course not, Crypsis(Also known as HeadHuntFabo on forums) is in my opinion. BUT, I definetly think I could place in the top 8 or 10 ^_^.

Q: Did I play ghost mode before?

Yes, I was a main ghost player when I first started playing mat, I was pretty good. That was back when IEatCats and MarkedOne played.

Q: What if I already play bomb but I want to get better?

Great! You can still use this guide, no problem. The improvement may just be a 40% or 50% instead of a complete 100%.



For those of you who don't know I actually made a mini montage video, visit YouTube.com/ChompyMat to see it. I don't really like it since it was when I first started playing again and I'm much better but it's whatever.




A lot of people ask me how do I headshot so much, sometimes il get 3-5 headshots in a row in pubs. Max I've ever gotten was 7 in a row( I killed the 8th player but was a normal kill).

For the last time, I don't hack. Or auto-aim, whatever you want to call it.

When I first started playing bomb, I always wondered how players like velociti an coherent always were headshotting players left to right. I
thought maybe It was my crosshair, or maybe I'm aiming wrong. So I did a bunch of experiments.


Many people underestimate AI Mode, yes it is useless for trying to get better aim, I agree they basically stand still not moving and are ver easy to trick, after all they are robots. But it will help you get the base of your aim.

Before you follow any practice I am going to state. Here are my settings.

Sensitivity-0.85-1.00(The highest I can go on MAT is 5.00, it may be different for
you. But with one full slide from my wrist, I can only do a 180 degree turn. I reccomend using low sensitivity because it is the most effective for me, you will never over aim, and in fact, it's proven that most professional players use a low sensitivity. Which are usually the ones with the more precise aim. Do NOT mistake this statement for saying high sensitivity users are bad. Ectasi, played on 5.00 sensitivity.
Also you should never change your sens. to use a gun. Stick to one sens. and build I it. Lowering your sensitivity so you can snipe or vice versa for assault is a BAD idea.

Crosshair- Type A/Small(I have always used this crosshair, except for when I first started playing bomb I used a circle crosshair but later switched). I reccomend using type a because it is the most logical crosshair and you can see your crosshair expand for recoil control.
The circle crosshair is terrible, I notice a lot of ghost players use it, In my opinion it's terrible because it doesn't expand so you can't really tell where your bullets are going. Type B is a viable option but it depends on the player.

In Misc Settings, I turn off everything except Target Direction and Chat Window.

Blood Color-Green

Main Assault- Default Ak-47, M4A1 Attachable Silencer,

Main Pistol- Glock(By far the best pistol in the game imo, a lot of times I don't even use a gun il rush with a Glock.

Sniper- Green Soul SVD, AWP(I reccomend using the AWP ad learning to always hit the torso, I use the SVD because a lot of time in scrims I would get tanked.

Reminder- I am not explaining footsteps or a sound guide, if you are a ghost player. This should already be known.


Just a reminder, I am not saying using these settings is the best or will make you better, it is just what I use.


Back to practice drills. I do NOT practice anymore I just play for fun now.


If you don't already, master the ak-47 default. Learn its recoil. Same for the Glock, master it's burst mode.


DO NOT SKIP ANY STAGES UNTIL YOU HAVE MASTERED EACH ONE COMPLETELY!(Meanig you can solo stage 1 and 2 on nightmare over and over. If you skip, you won't be improving as much as you could have.)

Stage 1(Building the foundation)AI Mode Underground Massacre-(Difficulty should increase as you progress, these should be done alone, yes solo. I do these alone on nightmare). For beginner this will be a nightmare, you will probably go negative and lose the first two times. But the point of this is to improve your reflexes and build on what I call 'The Waller Mind'. You should pick a side and practice headshotting each bot as they come from their spawn on the other side of the map. It will be hard at first, but slowly you will notice you can headshot them in under 3 bullets. Also, make sure you are moving all the time, if your staying still while doing this you aren't benefitting from this. If you fail to kill numerous times you will notice the bots will come closer and closer, simply crouch down and up and kill them(this is where the Waller mind comes to play, you should be able to put your crosshair where they were in the split second you see them when you crouch back up an down. If you get pushed to your base, practice your prefiring and tap aim at the head level. Also, NO GRENADES!




Stage 2(The Cage) AI Mode Base 911- This drill is simple, a bunch of bots coming at you once. Don't try healing here, as soon as you spawn your going to be surrounded. Try your best to kill them. At first, just try completing it on easy and normal. Then before you move on to insane and nightmare, do easy and normal again but this time try and get as much headshots as you can. Do this part about two times on easy and normal, if you don't get more headshots on your second attempt, go for a third attempt and try again. Also, NO GRENADES!




Stage 3(Get Dominated)- Yes the title says it all, you will need to find a buddy that is a ton better than you and play each other on a Team Deathmatch game in cross range 300 kills. The rules are no healing or walking and NO GRENADES, just straight head to head killing. It is important that you are trying your hardest here, go all out. Don't quit, the point is for you to get wrecked over and over before you can even get a kill off on your friend. If you really cannot find someone that is willing to do this for you, try finding someone who uses a bunch of gold with 10% ap, hk 416, gold Kriss etc. and play them. You shouldn't use any kind of armor, only a Glock and a default ak 47. I am willing too be your opponent myself, BooN, but only on weekends since that's when I play. Just leave me a mail in game and il reply ASAP. If you can't find anyone good enough, I reccomend just playing Stage 2 on nightmare over and over until you do. This is the last drill I reccomend doing this 3 times or more a day for a week.


Congratulations! Now that you have mastered all stages, you are ready to play bomb! Remember, though these are drills to help you, you will always get better by just playing regardless and having fun.



That's it. This guide is guranteed to transform any ghost player into a good bomb player effectively. If you have any questions please PM me on the forums or on MAT in mail or try and catch me online on the weekends. I wish this guide had pics and videos but unfortunately I don't have any.



I hope this was a successful transformation for all the ghost players,


Please leave any feedback.


BooN.

ToFFyiCE
April 4th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Hello, nice to meet you, my IGN is Malaysian.
well, i bet almost of players here doesn't read your post at all, even me but i read some that i feel quite interesting
About the mouse sensitivity , actually it depend on the player itself. Mine can play very "pro" with sensitivity about 2.8 - 3.0 if my delay would be below 88.
About crosshair. well i need a focus point, so i use type B with the middle point of the crosshair.
Blood color..green is the best.
About ghost mode skill
one skill called "Prediction"
it is almost similar as hacking since the skill predict the normal step of ghost.
If you're veteran/experienced player. i think you could be able to predict the next move of the ghost.
And of course if you success killing them, they could guess you're hacker instead of pro.

I used this skill frequently since my delay is above 200. So i've got to shoot earlier regarding the bullet delay.

Ch0mp
April 4th, 2012, 01:26 PM
Hello, nice to meet you, my IGN is Malaysian.
well, i bet almost of players here doesn't read your post at all, even me but i read some that i feel quite interesting
About the mouse sensitivity , actually it depend on the player itself. Mine can play very "pro" with sensitivity about 2.8 - 3.0 if my delay would be below 88.
About crosshair. well i need a focus point, so i use type B with the middle point of the crosshair.
Blood color..green is the best.
About ghost mode skill
one skill called "Prediction"
it is almost similar as hacking since the skill predict the normal step of ghost.
If you're veteran/experienced player. i think you could be able to predict the next move of the ghost.
And of course if you success killing them, they could guess you're hacker instead of pro.

I used this skill frequently since my delay is above 200. So i've got to shoot earlier regarding the bullet delay.


Ah, your probably right. People are viewing it but not replying, I don't think they could give any feedback without trying. And for your ghost statement about prediction, it's not really the same, in bomb mode you are being shot at from various distances, not by you listening and looking for something or hearing, to run past. The way people move in bomb is strafing as they shoot, not sneaking on you with a Melee.

Blood color doesn't matter I just find it the most appealing for a succesed hit.

Crosshair type B is optional, but its kind of a downer when your bursting and the dot is moving all over the place, though it is preference. Your sensitivity doesn't actually matter, it's just I find my sens(a low one) to be the best suitable for bomb. I used to use 3.00 sens, and practiced daily, yes it was indeed fast and pretty accurate but not accurate enough. And almost 70% the time when you are surprised to will have mouse spasms, low sens. prevents these :D.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 4th, 2012, 03:34 PM
There is some decent information in here I guess, but overall this isn't really a guide to make a 'ghost player a bomb player'.

This is basically just a guide to working on your aim. It's lacking any information on how to actually be decent (i.e. tactical) at bomb mode. Sure, good aim is very important.....I wouldn't argue that at all. But if this IS a guide to making anyone convert to bomb mode, it's missing the actual bomb mode information entirely (e.g. using sounds to your advantage, team communication, tactical defense/offense, knowing specific spots to throw grenades, pre-firing corners, good ways to handle solo situations, bomb defense once its planted, etc.)

I don't really think you can teach someone the tactics and smart team-based play style of bomb mode, at least not on a forum. They need to get in a bomb match (actually, lots of bomb matches) and learn for themselves; learn by mistake, learn by watching others that are noticably good, etc. Sure, anyone playing bomb for the first time is going to get steam rolled (most likely)....but as long as someone isn't completely retarded, they will learn from mistakes.

Also, like someone else said.....mouse sensitivity and cross-hair type are really just personal preference. If they've played with a 2.50 sensitivity (for example) for more than a month already, then I'd say they need not change what they've already gotten used to. And if someone has practiced with the weapons, they really don't need a cross-hair to enlarge as a recoil reminder (might help, but not really necessary).

There are a few tactics from ghost mode that actually transfer pretty well to bomb mode too (assuming a person is playing ghost mode efficiently). Using your sound to hear footsteps, shots, nades (or breathing in ghost) is also great in bomb; sounds can tell you where a person is at in the map, where they are approaching, or a bomb site push by the bomb carrying team. Also, most ghost players know to use their surroundings to their advantage. You don't just stand out in the open and get slaughtered (on either side in ghost).....you use corners, boxes, stairs, and hiding spots to make more tactical defense spots and pushes. This also transfers pretty well to bomb mode.

Sure, nothing in your guide here will hurt someone going into a bomb mode for the first time.....but there is a considerable amount of info left out that would help so much more.

GodziIla
April 5th, 2012, 10:32 AM
Hi, i'm Zune, nice to meet you both
Not much players reads guides to play this game because it's easy "in my opinion" mouse sens, blood color, and other things it is a matter of player preference. you just need to familiarize yourself with the sounds of breathing, steps and learn where to find them. this seems more a point of view not a guide to ghost. :awsum:

Ch0mp
April 7th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Hi, i'm Zune, nice to meet you both
Not much players reads guides to play this game because it's easy "in my opinion" mouse sens, blood color, and other things it is a matter of player preference. you just need to familiarize yourself with the sounds of breathing, steps and learn where to find them. this seems more a point of view not a guide to ghost. :awsum:


I see your point I did say my setup was my preference and they don't have to use it. And actually though if it may be a point of view I gurantee it works. I have done this with a few players and they show great improvement.

Ch0mp
April 7th, 2012, 05:24 PM
There is some decent information in here I guess, but overall this isn't really a guide to make a 'ghost player a bomb player'.

This is basically just a guide to working on your aim. It's lacking any information on how to actually be decent (i.e. tactical) at bomb mode. Sure, good aim is very important.....I wouldn't argue that at all. But if this IS a guide to making anyone convert to bomb mode, it's missing the actual bomb mode information entirely (e.g. using sounds to your advantage, team communication, tactical defense/offense, knowing specific spots to throw grenades, pre-firing corners, good ways to handle solo situations, bomb defense once its planted, etc.)

I don't really think you can teach someone the tactics and smart team-based play style of bomb mode, at least not on a forum. They need to get in a bomb match (actually, lots of bomb matches) and learn for themselves; learn by mistake, learn by watching others that are noticably good, etc. Sure, anyone playing bomb for the first time is going to get steam rolled (most likely)....but as long as someone isn't completely retarded, they will learn from mistakes.

Also, like someone else said.....mouse sensitivity and cross-hair type are really just personal preference. If they've played with a 2.50 sensitivity (for example) for more than a month already, then I'd say they need not change what they've already gotten used to. And if someone has practiced with the weapons, they really don't need a cross-hair to enlarge as a recoil reminder (might help, but not really necessary).

There are a few tactics from ghost mode that actually transfer pretty well to bomb mode too (assuming a person is playing ghost mode efficiently). Using your sound to hear footsteps, shots, nades (or breathing in ghost) is also great in bomb; sounds can tell you where a person is at in the map, where they are approaching, or a bomb site push by the bomb carrying team. Also, most ghost players know to use their surroundings to their advantage. You don't just stand out in the open and get slaughtered (on either side in ghost).....you use corners, boxes, stairs, and hiding spots to make more tactical defense spots and pushes. This also transfers pretty well to bomb mode.

Sure, nothing in your guide here will hurt someone going into a bomb mode for the first time.....but there is a considerable amount of info left out that would help so much more.


The reason I consider this a guide is because ghost players already have the sound down, in clan war ghost players already interact on the mic. There isn't any info that I could tell them here, exactly my point. So i basically just make them a good aimer. When they play bomb they will develop the mechanics and tactics on their own. That can't be written. Most of bomb is common sense, in bomb you can win in pubs with 100% skill like I do a lot of times, but in clan war it's 70% teamwork and 30% skill. Which is again something they have to learn, this guide can improve anyone's aim guranteed, so it can be a intermediate and beginner guide.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 9th, 2012, 11:05 AM
The reason I consider this a guide is because ghost players already have the sound down, in clan war ghost players already interact on the mic. There isn't any info that I could tell them here, exactly my point. So i basically just make them a good aimer. When they play bomb they will develop the mechanics and tactics on their own. That can't be written. Most of bomb is common sense, in bomb you can win in pubs with 100% skill like I do a lot of times, but in clan war it's 70% teamwork and 30% skill. Which is again something they have to learn, this guide can improve anyone's aim guranteed, so it can be a intermediate and beginner guide.

I'm not trying to troll you or anything, but let me get this straight......

1. You admit you can't really teach someone about bomb tactics in a forum post

2. You admit that the original post was mostly just a guide to improving aim

3. You admit that the original post was missing any bomb mode information.

Then why did you call it a 'guide to making a ghost player into a bomb player'? Wouldn't it be a guide to improving ANYONE's aim (or making them a bomb player, or whatever) and not just ghost players? Besides, I've seen plenty of ghost players that have well above average aim.

Also....there are plenty of tactics about bomb you could have included. Sure, there is alot that is situational and can't really be listed....but there is alot you could include (pre-firing corners, or efficient bullet management are 2 simple examples). I mean, how many kills have you been able to get because you pre-fired a corner where you knew someone would pop out? Or how many have you gotten simply because you managed the bullets in your magazine efficiently and didn't have to reload as often as other people? If you're a decent player, I'm guessing quite a few.

Ch0mp
April 10th, 2012, 12:10 PM
I already said this method could be used for anyone if you didn't play bomb lol. And because it is a conversion IMO, if they learn how to kill actually players and not ghost hiding with a hammer they are basically a bomb player. And yes the only information I would agree that is missing would have been go and learn every map for yourself. You know a lot of ghost players that have good aim killing ghosts but not players cool? I played with Klliop before one of the best ignore the best ghost, and he could solo a whole ghost team just sniping or with assault kill at least 5. But when it came to bomb he couldn't kill ish, I asked him why and he said they aren't like ghost they're shooting at me o_o. He already knew all the stages, could hear footsteps etc. which is why the title of this guide will be the same.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 10th, 2012, 05:48 PM
I already said this method could be used for anyone if you didn't play bomb lol...............

which is why the title of this guide will be the same.

Makes no sense ^^

That's the only reason I've commented on this thread.....the title of your guide makes no sense with the information you included. It's not just for ghost-moders, and it doesn't have any helpful bomb information.

So you're guide is still just a "How to Improve Your Aim" guide or "How to Improve in AI mode" or "How to Change Your Settings so they are just like Boon's"

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Also, I'm not sure I understand why you think aiming in ghost mode and any other mode is all that different. Which is also why I don't understand you posting drills to improve aim (can't hurt, just doesn't make much sense under the circumstances). And sure, ghosts don't shoot back, but that doesn't make them any less of a target. You can have great aim and still get steam-rolled in bomb, just like you can have only decent/average aim and do pretty well in bomb. Bomb mode is where tactics and playing smart really make a player shine.

Ch0mp
April 11th, 2012, 12:14 AM
Wrong, terribly wrong. Decent aim in bomb is useless. You can't be a decent player you will be just another noob who goes negative every game maybe even. If they do what I claim as my method, they will go positive, if they die they will know why and where they did which is when they learn on their own. I used to be a ghost player, and I rape in bomb with little effort and carry in pubs(still rape in cw) and this is what I did to become good at bomb. So whoever you met with average aim is not good at bomb. Good Aim > Smarts. Whoever has better aim wins its simple. The only time I could think where smarts would come into play is If they were a sniper, which has nothing to do with my tutorial.

And again, if you find my info. misleading, that's nice. Idgaf :D. Either use it effectively to your advantage or go complain elsewhere.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 11th, 2012, 03:16 AM
Wrong, terribly wrong. Decent aim in bomb is useless. You can't be a decent player you will be just another noob who goes negative every game maybe even. If they do what I claim as my method, they will go positive, if they die they will know why and where they did which is when they learn on their own. I used to be a ghost player, and I rape in bomb with little effort and carry in pubs(still rape in cw) and this is what I did to become good at bomb. So whoever you met with average aim is not good at bomb. Good Aim > Smarts. Whoever has better aim wins its simple. The only time I could think where smarts would come into play is If they were a sniper, which has nothing to do with my tutorial.

And again, if you find my info. misleading, that's nice. Idgaf :D. Either use it effectively to your advantage or go complain elsewhere.

You asked for feedback in your original post, so I'm giving it. I don't care if you care or if you can include faces in your post, that's not what the subject is concerning. Most importantly, I haven't complained anywhere in any of my posts.....it's all just constructive criticism. Never said it was misleading either.....your guide is simply mislabeled. And you do realize you don't have to respond, right? K good.

Haven't you ever killed someone that has more real skill than you (i.e. better aim, better reaction time, etc.) simply by taking a moment to analyze the situation and play it smart/tactically? Yes.....aim helps alot if you do nothing but rush all the time or are constantly dueling in wide open areas (if you do, you're doing it wrong or the other team sucks beyond measure), but that's not what bomb mode is about at all.

Haven't you ever seen videos of the pros playing on youtube where they all have equally insane aim? How exactly does either team win when all the players can be on a target the size of a grain of sand in one tenth of a second? Yep....you guessed it....tactics, strategy, and team coordination.

I'd say that I have 'decent' aim. There are plenty that aim better. I have played a considerable amount of bomb mode, and I have rarely gone negative. And I have certainly never done anything that you 'recommend' in your guide (specifically working on aim in AI modes, etc.). Sure, I wasn't amazing when I first started out, but I got alot better.

You might be wondering, 'LuL, well u must suk reel bad if u only got decent aimmmmmmm'. Answer: No and here's why.......

I only have 'decent' aim, but there are things in bomb mode of equal importance (strategy, intelligence, awareness, etc.). I'm a fairly conservative player, as in I don't typically do alot of rushing and certainly not solo. But don't think I'm a camper either, because I'm not. Some keys are: get to know the maps entirely (from spawn to spawn and everything between), nade typical camping spots, use the environment to your advantage (boxes, height differences, corners, stairs, ramps, etc.), be smart about peeking/double-peeking, firing while peeking, pre-firing corners/entrances/exits, bullet management, pick tactical spots to heal and see around corners, and the list could go on and on. You might think some of this is 'common sense', but I've seen good bomb players fail at one or more of them time and time again. But follow some of these tactics and the enemy may even be dead before he/she even fires a shot at you.

You're asserting that you have to be the 'BeSt AiMaR EvAr' in order to even go positive, and that's just not the case. And don't misunderstand me.....I do understand the importance of good aim.....if you can't aim at all, then you're screwed. If you're dueling someone, then yes, the one with superior aim wins. But in bomb mode, this isn't necessarily the case.

Certainly you can admit that you can put a player with amazing aim in a bomb match for the first time and they will still get destroyed. You know I'm right.

Ch0mp
April 11th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Nope. I may have overexaggerates a bit about the aim thing. But you basically need good aim to cw not decent aim. And yes I believe if you put someone in a bomb match with good aim they would do just fine. They could learn safe spots by hiding if they were new and go positive no problem. No, their isnt any videos of YouTube of any good people playing except Crypsis and velociti, I have a video up but I'm not pig to brag but I think it's better than most.

And no, all that tactic non sense is a load of bull. Yes some of it is LEARNED AS THEY PLAY THE GAME. But the root of it is there aim. I know what your getting at with the smart, tactical info. BUT, it's like this if you have decent aim then you will always be a decent player. Sure when you learn some tactics you'll learn some stuff not to do but you'll still be a
decent player. There aren't really REAL tactics in MAT, you can third-person heal ffs lol.

Yes I asked for feedback about my guide, none of what you mentioned is feedback because you haven't done any of this. You just said it was misleading. It's misleading in your opinion? Cool, make your own guide lol. I posted it because it's my method and my opinion. How can you tell someone that their opinion or method is misleading? You can't.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 11th, 2012, 04:35 PM
Nope. I may have overexaggerates a bit about the aim thing. But you basically need good aim to cw not decent aim. And yes I believe if you put someone in a bomb match with good aim they would do just fine. They could learn safe spots by hiding if they were new and go positive no problem. No, their isnt any videos of YouTube of any good people playing except Crypsis and velociti, I have a video up but I'm not pig to brag but I think it's better than most.

And no, all that tactic non sense is a load of bull. Yes some of it is LEARNED AS THEY PLAY THE GAME. But the root of it is there aim. I know what your getting at with the smart, tactical info. BUT, it's like this if you have decent aim then you will always be a decent player. Sure when you learn some tactics you'll learn some stuff not to do but you'll still be a
decent player. There aren't really REAL tactics in MAT, you can third-person heal ffs lol.

Yes I asked for feedback about my guide, none of what you mentioned is feedback because you haven't done any of this. You just said it was misleading. It's misleading in your opinion? Cool, make your own guide lol. I posted it because it's my method and my opinion. How can you tell someone that their opinion or method is misleading? You can't.

Everyone knows heal grants third person sighting. AND THAT IN ITSELF IS A TACTIC. You're telling me you DON'T use healing as a tactic? If you don't then you're absolutely retarded, and can't make use of the simplest tactic in the game.

Maybe you and I have different definitions of 'decent'. I'm using it casually to essentially mean 'good' aim, perhaps even 'slightly better than average'. I have CW'd certainly hundreds of times in my time playing MAT, and the majority of them were wins. I won't grind AI modes to train or practice aim because I don't think it helps (and yes, I've played all the AI modes up through Nightmare). The robots don't move or react like people do (of course) or use any simple tactics at all (like even crouching). Probably the only relevant thing in your guide was when you suggested going head to head against another player better than you.....that is a good suggestion. But farming robots in AI, is just retarded. And I know you're thinking, 'BuT i ReCuMeNd SoLoooooooooooo'.....and who cares. Solo-ing AI mode is going to prepare someone for exactly that.....20 bots that do nothing but rush. And is that how bomb matches or really any other match against players go? Besides maybe a good deathmatch or a TDM filled with complete idiots. But bomb, no.

I wasn't talking about videos of people playing MAT....99.99% of MAT vids on youtube are garbage (and most of them are foreign versions), because, lets face it....MAT is a pretty terrible FPS game, all things considered (fun, yes....but good, no). I was talking about other competitive FPS games, because the same rules of using tactics and strategy apply there also in bomb style matches.

And your last paragraph about 'feedback' makes no sense and is logically faulty. You didn't specify that someone 'has to do everything in the guide' to leave feedback. That's fundamentally not how feedback works anyway. If you don't want feedback or constructive criticism, then don't ask for it. And for the last time....I NEVER SAID YOUR GUIDE WAS MISLEADING....can you read? I don't even know where you came up with that.

I can tell you that your guide is MISLABELED....I say again MISLABELED, because:

1. It doesn't have anything to do with bomb

2. It's got nothing to do with ghost or training ONLY ghost-moders

3. You have admitted in several of your replies that it's basically mislabeled

It's painfully obvious that you don't understand my point AND won't open up to other points of view. And I'm not sure how to explain myself any more clearly. I can admit the importance of good aim, but you just can't seem to admit the importance of strategy, tactics, and intelligence in bomb matches.

This might be a bit of a personal jab but sorry, like you claim in your original post, there's no way you make it in the top 10 best players in MAT. Maybe now you would, since really good people have quit in droves over the years, but overall, no. I've seen you play, I've played with you and I've played against you. Don't take it badly though, I'm not saying you're a bad player. You are pretty good. But you have always had an over-inflated sense of self confidence.....just like you have always had a ridiculous temper (or at least used to). Its even apparent on old posts in these forums where you call yourself 'the best phantom in MAT' and such, when EVERYONE knows that has never been true. I even remember when you were absolutely terrible at bomb mode....and I know how you got better....you did it by playing more bomb and developing the style, and not grinding AI modes.

The whole reason I have criticized your original guide is because you left out simple tactics that I know you use, that could actually really help a player just getting into bomb mode. Like I've said before, aim is huge, but there are tactics you could have included (that I know you use) in your guide to make it more relevant to bomb mode.

Ch0mp
April 11th, 2012, 05:00 PM
Your insulting me now, why not challenge me? Whatever clan or pvp mode il be happily to play. It's okay, I guess people are hated for having confidence these days o_o? What's your IGN? Don't hide it :3,

Lol. That non sense about ghost had been cleared along time ago. Yes I am in the top 10 I believe, when do you hear me rage? I haven't raged in months. Its reallyyyy old. I admitted my boastfulness was overexaggerated along time ago. That again stopped after inspire. Take it however you want, this is MY guide with MY info. So it's not MISLABLED, and I admitted that I COULD of added info but you corrected me because they have to learn it on their own. I don't get why you criticizing MY guide, in fact, you can't lol no matter what you say it's still my guide. It's going to stand here, players like Sorxas has improved from using this method lol. So your nagging that none of this is helpful and little of it contains good information. I don't care if you don't think I'm in the top 10 once again it's MY opinion lmfao. And top players quit? Nope even then I can keep up with anyone in MAT, meaning I don't get completely dominated I can kill anyone and they can kill me. Crypsis is the best player and I kill him, no I'm not better. I kill Thormenta etc all the time and Pake what does that mean? It means I'm on that level of competitive play. I've played with everyone you can think of. And believe me, I never get wrecked at all, anymore at least since I got better. I say this with confidence because I've proven myself plenty of times in cws, drafts etc. Btw, mislabeled is saying that my information doesn't go with my title? Whats the difference in this situation ?


Bleh, way off topic my my point stands. It's my post with my information, if you find it misleading great. Let other players that have benefitted from it use it and get better. And how the hell are you going to tell me how I got better? I used this method and XTC pwned me a thousand deaths. Until I slowly got better.

I already said I understand your PoV, but it's my PoV that I'm emphasizing on. Which is using AI Mode, and a player better than you to help you become good at bomb. I see bomb as any other pvp match, deathmatch, tdm etc. it's still pvp and not player vs ghost. Maybe now you will see my PoV.

I still cant believe you have the audacity to bring up the ghost post LOL.





EDIT- MAT and any other game cannot be compared regardless of the situation. Third person view is a whole new meta game. And changes the game completely. Though I do like watching 1.6 videos from n0thing.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 11th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Your insulting me now, why not challenge me? Whatever clan or pvp mode il be happily to play. It's okay, I guess people are hated for having confidence these days o_o? What's your IGN? Don't hide it :3,

Lol. That non sense about ghost had been cleared along time ago. Yes I am in the top 10 I believe, when do you hear me rage? I haven't raged in months. Its reallyyyy old. I admitted my boastfulness was overexaggerated along time ago. That again stopped after inspire. Take it however you want, this is MY guide with MY info. So it's not MISLABLED, and I admitted that I COULD of added info but you corrected me because they have to learn it on their own. I don't get why you criticizing MY guide, in fact, you can't lol no matter what you say it's still my guide. It's going to stand here, players like Sorxas has improved from using this method lol. So your nagging that none of this is helpful and little of it contains good information. I don't care if you don't think I'm in the top 10 once again it's MY opinion lmfao. And top players quit? Nope even then I can keep up with anyone in MAT, meaning I don't get completely dominated I can kill anyone and they can kill me. Crypsis is the best player and I kill him, no I'm not better. I kill Thormenta etc all the time and Pake what does that mean? It means I'm on that level of competitive play. I've played with everyone you can think of. And believe me, I never get wrecked at all, anymore at least since I got better. I say this with confidence because I've proven myself plenty of times in cws, drafts etc. Btw, mislabeled is saying that my information doesn't go with my title? Whats the difference in this situation ?


Bleh, way off topic my my point stands. It's my post with my information, if you find it misleading great. Let other players that have benefitted from it use it and get better. And how the hell are you going to tell me how I got better? I used this method and XTC pwned me a thousand deaths. Until I slowly got better.

I already said I understand your PoV, but it's my PoV that I'm emphasizing on. Which is using AI Mode, and a player better than you to help you become good at bomb. I see bomb as any other pvp match, deathmatch, tdm etc. it's still pvp and not player vs ghost. Maybe now you will see my PoV.

I still cant believe you have the audacity to bring up the ghost post LOL.





EDIT- MAT and any other game cannot be compared regardless of the situation. Third person view is a whole new meta game. And changes the game completely. Though I do like watching 1.6 videos from n0thing.

I'm beginning to wonder about your ability to read....maybe you read to fast or something. I know I type alot, but you are misunderstanding nearly all of the things I've been saying. You still don't understand the core of my original argument. Not sure how to explain it any better, so I'll just give up on that.

For example of misunderstanding, I never insulted you....in fact, I gave you a compliment. I also never said that 'none of your guide is helpful'. The past ghost post was just an example....and a pretty spot on one too. You're still saying 'misleading' (for like the 4th time) when I have NEVER used that word to begin with in any of my criticisms.

I'm glad that you can distinguish between opinion and fact. And that's exactly my point.....you can say all day that you think and believe you're in the top 10, but just believing and thinking it won't ever make it true.

And yes.....mislabeled is different from misleading.

Bomb is fundamentally different from any other mode....don't care if you consider all of them PvP or whatever. If you don't know that or understand that, then this conversation is pointless.

And of course Sorxas is going to improve from playing ANYTHING. I mean, he's a good player and a good guy, but he used to never do anything but melee. If I'm remembering correctly, he used to not even play that much ghost....it was almost entirely melee. So, somewhat of a bad example there.

A 'whole new meta game'? I'm not even sure you've got a grasp on exactly what that means. The third person view isn't anything more than another tool a player can use for benefit (healing and seeing surroundings). It makes the game and gameplay different, yes, but it's not some massive game changer that makes MAT worlds apart from all the other hundreds of FPS games that exist lol. It's a perk. You can lean around corners in Operation 7, which is different, but it doesn't put Op 7 in a whole new category.

Why is my IGN relevant? What would us dueling or CW against one another prove? It doesn't make your guide any better, worse, relevant, or not. This isn't a pissing contest.

Ch0mp
April 11th, 2012, 06:37 PM
LOL 3rd person heal a perk? Not that different? No comment, I'm done with this conversation, cool opinions.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 11th, 2012, 07:15 PM
Flawless meta victory

:troll:

Seraphinax
April 18th, 2012, 12:42 AM
._. God. I wanted to stop reading after the arrogant replies to random question.... and Honestly :\ I think you should have gave this another title. Not that I care much for Bomb mode... I was just curious and you barely mentioned anything about it... you were just mentioning how good your skills were or who was the better player or how to improve your aim in "your" opinion. Sorry it just wasn't helpful in my opinion.

CoolDaddyPancakes
April 18th, 2012, 06:39 PM
I have a title that would have worked better.

"Boon's Guide to Aiming: How to train your aim so good that you'll never need to learn anything else, ever"

SoTunes
May 5th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Ectasi back when he play told me 5 sens is the way to go. its good if you can head shot with the sensitivity for a few targets people in my opinion best way to work on aim is with a sniper because sometimes you only get one shot making them highly effective when given an assault rifle.

Chompylol
May 14th, 2013, 08:53 PM
bump for laughs hue.