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Kitsunemch1ajYB
April 12th, 2014, 05:44 AM
when i completed the RTD quest to get a new role the power went off before i was able to get a role and now i cant continue with the quest to get the role i wanted how i can solve this problem?

Jamie9d
April 12th, 2014, 12:12 PM
when i completed the RTD quest to get a new role the power went off before i was able to get a role and now i cant continue with the quest to get the role i wanted how i can solve this problem?

Your quest is bugged and until the GM's find a solution to your problem or find a solution to the RTD disconnect bug in general, i'm afraid you're stuck. Try sending Deimos or KKid a private message and see if they can help you. TheMongol had a similar issue and they resolved it for him so don't lose hope, they'll fix yours.

Xryu025B20tI22Y
April 12th, 2014, 03:38 PM
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RagingAsura
April 12th, 2014, 03:40 PM
Good luck with that, mine has been over a week and they still havent resolved it. I guess he's forgotten.

Jamie9d
April 13th, 2014, 03:41 AM
Good luck with that, mine has been over a week and they still havent resolved it. I guess he's forgotten.

You could try messaging KKid or just keep sending Deimos or Gecko a private message until one of them eventually responds and helps you. I know Deimos was trying different methods because TheMongol had exactly the same problem and the other day when he logged in, his quest was no longer bugged.

RagingAsura
April 14th, 2014, 06:08 AM
You could try messaging KKid or just keep sending Deimos or Gecko a private message until one of them eventually responds and helps you. I know Deimos was trying different methods because TheMongol had exactly the same problem and the other day when he logged in, his quest was no longer bugged.

I did, they both ignored. So my character could have capped by now instead it's sitting naked in hefei. Nice help GM gave me there. Last I heard from them was they have no idea how to use GM tools so they cant help me.

Jamie9d
April 14th, 2014, 06:35 AM
I did, they both ignored. So my character could have capped by now instead it's sitting naked in hefei. Nice help GM gave me there. Last I heard from them was they have no idea how to use GM tools so they cant help me.

Deimos solved Themongol's quest by trying random things which didn't fix it until he randomly logged in and he could complete the RTD. I do completely agree that there is a serious lack of help and players like yourself are not being prioritised and are poorly neglected.

I sent a large comparison between item mall prices which are potentially exploitable to buy more but costs less to both Deimos and Kkid and i haven't seen a single thank you or reply to them. I feel frustrated and i can only sympathise for you.

Let's just hope that if and when we see a new game master, he/she will prevent these issues from occurring. I appreciate numbers are scarce but this is a bit unfair now. Players with similar issues have been waiting since CBT and those who couldn't even physically connect had go rely on player suggestions to fix the issues. I don't think Suba realises just how amazing a response from someone like a developer would mean to us.

We're playing a very broken and neglected game so don't expect much.

RagingAsura
April 14th, 2014, 06:55 AM
We are playing with a 20% GM because he probably has no time for 9D. And out of that 20% attention he can give us, only 5% is knowledge, the other 15% is just asking questions of what the community wants. If he cannot help us why cant he keep us updated? he is keeping silent about all our RTD issues, connection issues, suggestions etc. Even the damn item mall is wrongly priced. I dont know which monkey set up the prices like that so that if you buy singular its cheaper than bulk, good logic there.

I'm becoming more and more frustrated and Hefei isnt getting populated more, you wonder why. OBT is the time when GM should be paying close attention and helping players as much as they can to win their trust and loyalty, but nope not Suba, just stays silent. So much for "watching forum like a hawk" those were KKid's words and forum is nothing but spam from players and trolls.

They cant even keep the forum in check how can they keep the game in check? imagine if there were cheaters and hackers everywhere later on in the game and it takes 1 month for them to even look. Damage would have been done, and they will be doing too little too late. Right now they are doing too much of too little. They need to pull their finger out and pay some much needed attention.

Refinement is bugged
RTD is bugged
IM is bugged
Web game is bugged
AR is freaken bugged, who needs 7K AR at SM/GB level wtf is this.

And Jamie dont try to even stand up for them, I've given my patience and I stated I have reservations, but all the things I've stated are true and it cannot even be classed as "constructive criticism" if all they do is ignore it and do not construct anything from that.

Get another GM, change GMs or the server will die. Simple as.

Jamie9d
April 14th, 2014, 07:30 PM
We are playing with a 20% GM because he probably has no time for 9D. And out of that 20% attention he can give us, only 5% is knowledge, the other 15% is just asking questions of what the community wants. If he cannot help us why cant he keep us updated? he is keeping silent about all our RTD issues, connection issues, suggestions etc. Even the damn item mall is wrongly priced. I dont know which monkey set up the prices like that so that if you buy singular its cheaper than bulk, good logic there.

I'm becoming more and more frustrated and Hefei isnt getting populated more, you wonder why. OBT is the time when GM should be paying close attention and helping players as much as they can to win their trust and loyalty, but nope not Suba, just stays silent. So much for "watching forum like a hawk" those were KKid's words and forum is nothing but spam from players and trolls.

They cant even keep the forum in check how can they keep the game in check? imagine if there were cheaters and hackers everywhere later on in the game and it takes 1 month for them to even look. Damage would have been done, and they will be doing too little too late. Right now they are doing too much of too little. They need to pull their finger out and pay some much needed attention.

Refinement is bugged
RTD is bugged
IM is bugged
Web game is bugged
AR is freaken bugged, who needs 7K AR at SM/GB level wtf is this.

And Jamie dont try to even stand up for them, I've given my patience and I stated I have reservations, but all the things I've stated are true and it cannot even be classed as "constructive criticism" if all they do is ignore it and do not construct anything from that.

Get another GM, change GMs or the server will die. Simple as.

I have already sent a detailed list to Deimos and Kkid regarding the item mall prices and both of them did get back to me. I sent it on Friday and I wasn't expecting them to be working during the weekend. Deimos sent me a message thanking me and told me he would have the prices fixed accordingly. As for the inactivity of the staff, what do you want from them? A lot of the staff members like Deimos and Gecko, they are coming from different games and those games take priority because they came long before 9dragons. 9dragons is a brand new game to Suba and sparing resources isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. We will get more experienced staff, we will get forum moderators to help keep peace and we will get changes but these take time and will not happen in a single week or month.

We've only been running with both cbt and obt for less than a month so give them time. Yes, the publishers are keeping quiet regarding bugs like disconnections, web client issues, RTD bugs and that could be because they don't know the answers and do not want to give out information which has more weight than a standard community member's answer. They need to take the problems back to the developers and wait for them to find a solution to the problems before they can start giving out information. Wrong information is fatal and if the information is announced wrongly by a staff member, it can really cause major problems.

You would be surprised but there are higher people above Deimos and KKid who are viewing this forum board and just because they are not showing themselves, it doesn't mean they are not here watching us. Thankfully there are no major hacking or cheating problems yet, but when they do come, hopefully the staff will be quick to end them. We're still in an open beta so things are going to be slow, boring and frustrating. I'm standing up for the publishers because I support them and I want to see them make this game into something beautiful. If we all share that vision and forget about the issues that we're having then this whole operation will run so much more smoothly.

Refinement isn't bugged. The rates are really bad but that doesn't make them bugged. I was able to refine to a +8 which some difficulty and large consumption of scales and a tear but I did manage it. The refinement rates need adjusting and over time, they will be adjusted. There are lots of players struggling with RTD and I personally agree that someone from Suba needs to stop what they're doing (unless it's important) and make it their responsibility to help the players with their RTD issues. A lot of the issues could be rectified just by altering their states in the database or by removing that quest from the player and having them do it again. Delete the quest, give a couple of courier passes as compensation and maybe something small and you're happy.

The IM isn't bugged, the prices are just strangely priced but will be adjusted now that we've given them solid feedback on the items. Unless you're speaking about a specific item not functioning?

The web plug-in is problematic and is something that will take longer to resolve as each browser accepts and executes the code for those plug-ins very differently. We've already done a lot of tests and confirmed that Chrome has a file pointing issue with the plugin and Firefox/IE simply won't execute the plugin. Opera seems to work fine and Safari has the same issue as Chrome. Opera does work so that is a current solution but the client does need looking into and the issues rectified.

The AR isn't bugged but it was badly increased to pseudo fix the issue. We need a proper solution and Deimos has been asking for feedback on the issue in a previous thread earlier today.

RagingAsura
April 15th, 2014, 06:42 AM
All you said above is heresay, nothing concrete at all. They have got a completely bugged patch and they are now bandaiding it in all sorts of manners without even knowing what they are fixing to start off with. They dont know what AR is supposed to be like, how are they supposed to know what a "fixed state" is? that is coming from GM and devs.

I dont care what reasons they have for neglecting this game. If they have the money and venture to buy 9D publishing rights, then they should have prepared resources accordingly to manage it, not half-arsed like this. Let the game flail along while trying to get staff is backwards. You dont open a pub without the bar tender, you dont open a shop without a cashier or floor manager. Subagames is opening a game without a manager, i dont think 5% manager counts. Nothing less than 100% counts.

RTD bugs ARENT new, they have been there since the dawn of this game, and every publisher has been able to fix this, acclaim fixed it, GC fixed it, there are solutions out there already, it's not a new developement thing that needs to be done to fix this. They aren't given the info when they should have all that knowledge. This is common, it should be known there are no excuses.

And how would you know who monitors the forum? you dont work for Suba, you are just a common player like us. You speak as if you have inside knowledge, you cannot see how they operate, you're not in their office. I understand your passion but you dont need to stand up for them and being blind, fighting for them without a leg to stand on. They have not been active on forums, i dont call every few days posting a queston on the forum active. There are barely any activity giving us indication of the direction of the game. We ask them questions and the replies are "we dont know", "we cant do that", "its too risky", "we cant say", "we are waiting" etc etc but mostly "we dont know"s ...exactly what do they know?
Capped players are now complaining nothing to do but starting new char, why dont they open up LD, atleast black n whites can grind/chat/mingle with each other, get new resources, do more stuff. Atleast we can try get more dungeons, kill more bosses or something. Right now it seems the only thing suba has done so far hs move from CBT to OBT with a fix in sound issue and a bandaid for the AR. Everything else is the same.


Regarding refinement, ok i worded "bug" wrong, but they have screwed up the rates badly on it, and to me there is something wrong. IM is bugged for some users, they cant even launch IM. The item mall is priced wrong too. To me anything wrong i would call "bug", it needs ironing out. Web versions are bugged as it doesnt support common browsers, so i still stay by the statement.

AR is bugged, and it's been bandaided by multipling it more than 3x the amount we should be getting, how is that not a bug?

Jamie9d
April 15th, 2014, 06:56 AM
All you said above is heresay, nothing concrete at all. They have got a completely bugged patch and they are now bandaiding it in all sorts of manners without even knowing what they are fixing to start off with. They dont know what AR is supposed to be like, how are they supposed to know what a "fixed state" is? that is coming from GM and devs.

I dont care what reasons they have for neglecting this game. If they have the money and venture to buy 9D publishing rights, then they should have prepared resources accordingly to manage it, not half-arsed like this. Let the game flail along while trying to get staff is backwards. You dont open a pub without the bar tender, you dont open a shop without a cashier or floor manager. Subagames is opening a game without a manager, i dont think 5% manager counts. Nothing less than 100% counts.

You are right to a degree but from experience with game servers, this wouldn't cost a lot to maintain because of the player population and I don't think the license costs a huge amount with the state of this game being broken in practically every aspect available. We're even seeing bugs from other versions creeping into this version.

RTD bugs ARENT new, they have been there since the dawn of this game, and every publisher has been able to fix this, acclaim fixed it, GC fixed it, there are solutions out there already, it's not a new developement thing that needs to be done to fix this. They aren't given the info when they should have all that knowledge. This is common, it should be known there are no excuses.

Acclaim took how long to fix the bugs, GC took how long to fix the bugs? Solutions can differ depending on what causes the problem to start. There isn't one guaranteed fix to solve every problem that the previous publishers were able to resolve.

And how would you know who monitors the forum? you dont work for Suba, you are just a common player like us. You speak as if you have inside knowledge, you cannot see how they operate, you're not in their office. I understand your passion but you dont need to stand up for them and being blind, fighting for them without a leg to stand on. They have not been active on forums, i dont call every few days posting a queston on the forum active. There are barely any activity giving us indication of the direction of the game. We ask them questions and the replies are "we dont know", "we cant do that", "its too risky", "we cant say", "we are waiting" etc etc but mostly "we dont know"s ...exactly what do they know?
Capped players are now complaining nothing to do but starting new char, why dont they open up LD, atleast black n whites can grind/chat/mingle with each other, get new resources, do more stuff. Atleast we can try get more dungeons, kill more bosses or something. Right now it seems the only thing suba has done so far hs move from CBT to OBT with a fix in sound issue and a bandaid for the AR. Everything else is the same.

I don't know that myself but when I spoke to KKid about some of these issues, he told me that his boss and other people within Suba were looking at the feedback so that's the only assumption I have on that one. I am going to stand up for them because I generally think they have the potential to make a difference to the community and the game but only if they are going to force the developers into submission by putting them into a kimura lock and breaking their shoulder until they agree to work. The situation with capped characters being stuck in cc4 or fc pq is really irritating and I had to make a new character just to feel like I've achieved something again. We were completely segregated until CC4 and we really do need to have LD open. I completely agree but you didn't mention the change to the title in the marketplace and the change in states to the tradeable tonics/30 days. :COOL: I put the smiley face because that patch made me smash my face against the keyboard until I literally bled binary.

Regarding refinement, ok i worded "bug" wrong, but they have screwed up the rates badly on it, and to me there is something wrong. IM is bugged for some users, they cant even launch IM. The item mall is priced wrong too. To me anything wrong i would call "bug", it needs ironing out. Web versions are bugged as it doesnt support common browsers, so i still stay by the statement.

I don't know if they even touched the rates. They were the same during cbt so I guess the rates were from a previous less updated version that the developers had on a floppy disk somewhere. I sent a large list of price comparisons to Deimos and he did say in a reply that the prices would be fixed. The web version is broken and that does need sorting urgently. Opera isn't the best browser to be using for anything.

AR is bugged, and it's been bandaided by multipling it more than 3x the amount we should be getting, how is that not a bug?

The attack rating was increased which temporarily fixed the problem. If you want to argue the semantics of a bug, speak to Grace Hopper.

RagingAsura
April 15th, 2014, 07:10 AM
So we are in the same boat with slightly different mindsets. However i love the game as anybody and have enough passion to put through with all the crap too. I hate to be bashing on the GMs but sometimes harsh words are need to be spoken or else they will not be heard. I'm not like you though, my vision is not as hazey. I suppose not much as gone wrong for you though thats probably why you still have so much patience. I'm not so lucky. Maybe im wrong. But then again i've lost all the XP cards, courier passes i've purchased to do the RTD's right till the final stage and find out my char is screwed, and thats not because my internet connection or whatever, it was the NPC wont give me the reply to return the quest. Well all that wasted, new character then. Where are the XP cards compensation? courier passes? 5hrs worth of running around like a monkey from A to B then back to A and repeat x10. All i got was a "tried this, didnt work, s**ty GM tools". Hey ho but life's not fair i guess =)


I'll be KSing wei soon LOL.

RagingAsura
April 15th, 2014, 05:15 PM
Uhm is this a freaking joke??? i started a new character ready to do all the quests for 2nd Role and ive gone upto the COF quest for RTD and all my quests have disappeared AGAIN!! all the quests from hefei, nanchang everything gone. I havent gone to COF yet so that quest is still open. But the damn quest system is broke again for me!! after reaching EC6. This is completely SHT to tell you the truth, one time is enough, but twice, what the hell are you guys playing it? this time i did not even speak to NPC, I did not get disconnected, all i did was leave M&D and was going to accept some disciples but then i couldnt see any quest appear in hefei, i relogged, changed map etc, and realized all my other quests have disappeared too just like my other character, needless to say im super pissed off!! Get your damn servers sorted, no one wants to do this. I've done 3 characters all high EC - FC, and only one of them managed to get past RTD and thats not even the one i want to play.

Sort my 2 freaking characters out and dont give me this bullcrap about GM tools are sht, to be honest GM's are just as sht.

RagingAsura
April 15th, 2014, 05:19 PM
PS. Sort my characters out, or refund me and i'll take my business elsewhere. I've had enough of this sht, spending hours doing quest and leveling, farming sht to make a decent weapon only to have both characters bugged out.

Deimos
April 16th, 2014, 01:05 AM
I'm sorry but I replied to several of your messages, went in game to find you and you were afk, then I tried to repeat the steps I went through with TheMongol to try and fix the issue, and sent another PM to you saying so. I've sent an email to the devs about the problem and I'm still waiting to hear back from them. I don't know what else I can do at this point. But to say I haven't done anything to help you is not the case at all.

RagingAsura
April 16th, 2014, 05:38 AM
OK I was in a rage yesterday and didnt construct my comments appropriately and for that I apologize. I do have some progress to report back regarding one of my other characters.

My 2nd bugged character has somehow mysteriously fixed itself after logging on and off a million times, i've tried logging on other PC's during the logged period and it was the same problem so it wasnt a client issue. I finished off the opened quest of RTD that I still had on my list and continued for a couple more subquests in the chapter and still the other map quests did not appear, however after a while relogging, doing dungeons n stuff the other quests seemed to unlock itself. All my quests appeared again and I was able to even do the master-disciple quests. You did not know how relieved i was!!

I've concluded that the RTD quests itself is pinnacle to all other quests in the game, if one of the quests in the RTD chapters gets bugged, it will disable all your other unopened quests (you can still finish off the ones you have accepted in your Quest list). So until the RTD is unblocked/unbugged then all the other quests RTK, RTE etc will not show up anymore on anymap. I'm guessing GM will have to delete the RTD quests and reset it, somehow just to reboot the RTD system, you cant skip them because that wont reset as new quests wont appear. I'm pretty sure if RTD is fixed then every single other quests will be released back too.

Again I apologise for my rage yesterday, but man, doing 6hrs worth of questing the 2nd time to find out your character is at a dead-end again is not fun, together with the time it took to get to EC6 and EC10.

Have a good day.