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Deimos
May 22nd, 2014, 11:16 AM
We would like to thank Jamie9d for all his hard work in making this community better. He provided us with great insight into the game and we really appreciate his contributions. We understand that education takes priority and that sometimes it can be difficult to balance work and play. Having said that we will be looking for a new forum moderator. If anyone is interested please let us know either by PM or by responding on this thread. We will be looking for someone who knows the game well and is active on the forums. If anyone has any questions regarding this let us know.

RagingAsura
May 22nd, 2014, 11:35 AM
There is too much stupidity in this forum to mod, no one has any patience left :D. New mod will require a lot of patience which i dont think anyone has enough of.
Bringing back balance means banning too many people of which we dont have many.
:D

Joking aside, will the new mod have an unlimited or atleast a stack of lion roars to go ingame to make happy comments or announcements? will they be able to have direct communication with GM/tech/management of some sort through instant messaging rather than forum pm's and/or email?

Deimos
May 22nd, 2014, 11:47 AM
Yes, with Jamie we used skype for direct communication and we will give out lion roars to be able to make announcements in game.

NameLess113
May 22nd, 2014, 12:42 PM
Theres nobody left in the "population" that still active on this forum (from what I`m reading here and there, I might not comment, but I read every now and then) and which PLAYS the game that is decent enough to be a moderator and a bridge between gen pop and the guys upstairs.





Chose wise, if its for you guys to chose another one, but keep in mind it`ll not be half close to what Jamie was.



PS: Actually I could vouche for 1 guy, but not sure if he`s that active on this server and if he`d be interested enough in this, but I`ll keep an eye on this thread and if he shows interest, I`ll definetly support him, as for me, I don`t even remeber which is my account here anymore, lucky for me google chrome keeps this forum account logged for me 24/7...

BizaRRe123
May 22nd, 2014, 12:53 PM
first of all you need some1 with experience,thats the most important thing
it cant be worse than Jamie...

Sercova
May 22nd, 2014, 01:18 PM
Looking forward to seeing who the new mod is and hopefully they're as knowledgeable as Jamie about the game and will actually fight for whats right.
I have put my name forward but I did say it's only because i've been a mod before and I have experience in moderating 9Dragons forums. NOT because i'm super experienced with game. There are many other members of the community more qualified to deal with that side of things.

Jamie9d
May 22nd, 2014, 04:14 PM
first of all you need some1 with experience,thats the most important thing
it cant be worse than Jamie...

If you have nothing better to do but to criticize everyone, you stand up and take the responsibility. I spent hours and hours speaking to the staff, helping players with bugs (things I couldn't physically fix myself), speaking to players about ideas, taking huge amounts of criticism and abuse because I was the only one players were able to vent to. This wasn't the easiest of responsibilities but it has been such an incredible experience and anyone who takes the next position, they're going to learn a lot more than just how to be a moderator - they learn life lessons.

KikyoArrows
May 22nd, 2014, 08:56 PM
As bias as jamie can sometimes be, i doubt you will find someone with the same patience and intelligence to fill that role

Deimos
May 23rd, 2014, 10:27 AM
We got some really good applications, and we'll be discussing this over the next few days internally. We may be picking 2 forum mods as we feel there are several people who can bring a lot to the table. We will be announcing who the new mods are next week and will be in contact with them early next week (probably Tuesday). Big thanks to everyone who applied!

Jamie9d
May 23rd, 2014, 01:23 PM
Congratulations to the next person who takes my old job. I know you will put the community at the heart of your interests. If you want any tips or advice, don't hesitate to give me a shout!

Sercova
May 23rd, 2014, 02:53 PM
They'd be a fool not to ask for advice Jamie ;)

RainbowTubeSocks
May 26th, 2014, 06:39 PM
How high will said mod's opinions be held when talking about the future of the game? I like 9d, I know 9d more than anyone here (Jamie could probably rival me but I edge out bcus I love PvP), and since my semester is over I have nothing better to do. I wasn't active on the forums but that shouldn't matter. Quality beats activeness before the position is handed out.

BizaRRe123
May 27th, 2014, 12:59 AM
make a poll with the candidates before you choose one
i dont want another mod with "experience" who played 9d just 2 hours per week

RainbowTubeSocks
May 27th, 2014, 03:01 AM
make a poll with the candidates before you choose one
i dont want another mod with "experience" who played 9d just 2 hours per week

What's the point of a poll? So people can factor in dumb things like personal grudges and he say she say? Someone can also argue that a poll can be void due to favoritism. No need for a poll. Also, someone can play 9D for 5 minutes a week and still have more experience than everyone in Suba's community combined. A mod is a forum mod. If a person has basic 9D knowledge but they're one hell of a active forum lurker then that could get them the job.

BizaRRe123
May 27th, 2014, 04:09 AM
What's the point of a poll? So people can factor in dumb things like personal grudges and he say she say? Someone can also argue that a poll can be void due to favoritism. No need for a poll. Also, someone can play 9D for 5 minutes a week and still have more experience than everyone in Suba's community combined. A mod is a forum mod. If a person has basic 9D knowledge but they're one hell of a active forum lurker then that could get them the job.

screw that,basic knowledge is not enough.Just check the posts of Jamie's,he had no idea about 9D
ppl can choose someone who they think has enough wisdom to manage this community, not a kid who just sent PM to GM and he became mod over the night
also you dont want a poll because ppl will not choose you ;-)

RainbowTubeSocks
May 27th, 2014, 04:35 AM
screw that,basic knowledge is not enough.Just check the posts of Jamie's,he had no idea about 9D
ppl can choose someone who they think has enough wisdom to manage this community, not a kid who just sent PM to GM and he became mod over the night
also you dont want a poll because ppl will not choose you ;-)

Maybe you're right about that. ;-)

I've read a few post from Jamie before he became a mod and I'll admit, I facepalmed myself a lot, but he isn't completely clueless when it comes to 9D. He has a lot of file/behind the scenes knowledge, which makes him more wise than a lot of other people including you. Someone can have all the 9D tricks in the world but the question is can they mod the forums? That's what it comes down to at the end of the day. Can said person no-life and keep the forums organized?

The mod's job isn't to manage the community. He isn't a GM. I agree with you 100% BizaRRe123. Following the standards that you want though, everyone who sent in a application shouldn't be picked(except me of course).

BizaRRe123
May 27th, 2014, 05:26 AM
Someone can have all the 9D tricks in the world but the question is can they mod the forums?

all you need is knowledge not "tricks" and by playing 9d you acquire this knowledge
i've seen so many ppl(including Jamie also) saying:"we should get this or that like in diablo/aow/dota/etc".For gods sake this is ---> 9d<--- ,nothing from other mmorpg suits with it
So thats why we need a mod who played this game

RainbowTubeSocks
May 27th, 2014, 05:49 AM
9D knowledge = tricks. Nothing more and nothing less. If you don't see where I'm coming from with that statement then you should question your own "knowledge" instead of bringing up Jamie every chance you get. Now let me ask you something. You keep talking about 9d knowledge this and 9d knowledge that, but what's YOUR definition of 9D knowledge? Everyone might have their own definition but in all honesty no one has 9D knowledge about this current 9D that we have. I like you because we kinda have a lot of the same beliefs, but you're confusing knowledge with experience. Two very different things my friend.

Lets not keep this going in this thread though. We can talk in each other's inbox if you want. I might even teach you a thing or two.

p.s I really hate when people bring up other games too. I hate it the most when people cry for things from Korean 9D. Its understandable but come on, seriously?

Alex2peu
May 27th, 2014, 06:29 AM
What's the point of a poll? So people can factor in dumb things like personal grudges and he say she say? Someone can also argue that a poll can be void due to favoritism. No need for a poll. Also, someone can play 9D for 5 minutes a week and still have more experience than everyone in Suba's community combined. A mod is a forum mod. If a person has basic 9D knowledge but they're one hell of a active forum lurker then that could get them the job.
all the ppl that write here on forum are both active on forum and in the game
and i really doubt some1 that play 5min 9d everyday can have more knodledge than any of us ;)
and somehow poll will be helpull,we need a good FM,and with that we need 9d experience...not just another FM that know to edit posts and bla bla
with names, hmm idk ,if il write my name here as a candidate,im pretty sure they will burn me at the stake :D

Alex2peu
May 27th, 2014, 06:34 AM
9D knowledge = tricks. Nothing more and nothing less. If you don't see where I'm coming from with that statement then you should question your own "knowledge" instead of bringing up Jamie every chance you get. Now let me ask you something. You keep talking about 9d knowledge this and 9d knowledge that, but what's YOUR definition of 9D knowledge? Everyone might have their own definition but in all honesty no one has 9D knowledge about this current 9D that we have. I like you because we kinda have a lot of the same beliefs, but you're confusing knowledge with experience. Two very different things my friend.

Lets not keep this going in this thread though. We can talk in each other's inbox if you want. I might even teach you a thing or two.

p.s I really hate when people bring up other games too. I hate it the most when people cry for things from Korean 9D. Its understandable but come on, seriously?

asking and crying are two different things,which most of you guys fail to understand

RainbowTubeSocks
May 27th, 2014, 07:02 AM
i really doubt some1 that play 5min 9d everyday can have more knodledge than any of us ;)
and somehow poll will be helpull,we need a good FM,and with that we need 9d experience...not just another FM that know to edit posts and bla bla
with names, hmm idk ,if il write my name here as a candidate,im pretty sure they will burn me at the stake :D

Not really. Polls are rarely only good for content based things. Rarely. Polls show personal/mass population preferences rather than logic and the best decision. You guys fail to choose logic/the best decision over personal/mass population preferences. I don't see why a poll should be made to tell Suba who they should pick for their Mod. Even though I believe the publisher isn't anything without the community, what would a publisher be without a back bone and a sense of direction of their own? And someone who plays 9D 5mins everyday CAN have more knowledge than everyone here combined. Its not how long you play, its what you do in that time. 5 mins was a little ridiculous on my behalf :-)

I'm not gonna get into the whole KR thing again. Sorry for turning this thread into this. Seems like I still get more attention than I should haha

NameLess113
May 27th, 2014, 07:12 AM
9D knowledge = tricks. Nothing more and nothing less. If you don't see where I'm coming from with that statement then you should question your own "knowledge" instead of bringing up Jamie every chance you get. Now let me ask you something. You keep talking about 9d knowledge this and 9d knowledge that, but what's YOUR definition of 9D knowledge? Everyone might have their own definition but in all honesty no one has 9D knowledge about this current 9D that we have. I like you because we kinda have a lot of the same beliefs, but you're confusing knowledge with experience. Two very different things my friend.

Lets not keep this going in this thread though. We can talk in each other's inbox if you want. I might even teach you a thing or two.

p.s I really hate when people bring up other games too. I hate it the most when people cry for things from Korean 9D. Its understandable but come on, seriously?


Thats pretty much it. When you think you know it all, theres a guy next door that can tell you stuff you never knew its possible and thought it don`t exist, this happend to me, just recently and I realised how nearly nothing I know compared to a certain group of guys.


98% of you that comment on certain stuff didn`t found it yourself, you know about it cause you read on some forum about it and you call that knowledge. There are experienced guys in 9D, that know this and that, but when it comes down to even getting an epi for a lower char they ask where I buy passes? Soooo theres many of you in this situation and don`t deny it, ofc y`all deny it, its the internet, you can be who ever you wanna be. Heil Youtube.

RST is definetly a good call for this mod position and a bridge between community and officials, but they might just not like it cause of his blunt sarcasm and harsh truth he point out sometimes.

BizaRRe123
May 27th, 2014, 07:27 AM
but you're confusing knowledge with experience. Two very different things my friend.
Lets not keep this going in this thread though. We can talk in each other's inbox if you want.

Well.....how they can be 2 different things since the knowledge its an understanding gained through experience ?
we can keep talking here since noone is reading this forum anymore,just few ppl here and there

Jedaii
May 27th, 2014, 07:28 AM
I have declared myself the next forum mod. Socialism is the way to go!

BizaRRe123
May 27th, 2014, 07:33 AM
Thats pretty much it. When you think you know it all, theres a guy next door that can tell you stuff you never knew its possible and thought it don`t exist, this happend to me, just recently and I realised how nearly nothing I know compared to a certain group of guys.

like what ?
i dont think theres some left unknown on this game after 7 years

NameLess113
May 27th, 2014, 07:35 AM
like what ?
i dont think theres some left unknown on this game after 7 years

You have no idea...

RainbowTubeSocks
May 27th, 2014, 07:43 AM
Well.....how they can be 2 different things since the knowledge its an understanding gained through experience ?
we can keep talking here since noone is reading this forum anymore,just few ppl here and there

I don't want to disrespect the thread by going off topic so this is my last post here. (where the hell is Araan when I finally need him)

That would be the case if we weren't talking about 9D. I'll use my favorite analogy of all time. If tomorrow Suba took away the healer 2nd role masteries and there was no more ck courage allowing you to 65k every range 1 nuke on TGW, how would you still 65k every nuke and what nukes would you use to do it? What gear/relics do you use and why do you need a level cap warrior with a 40% crit weapon to help you? Now for the other side of the coin. How the hell can I fight 5 level capped IM/HG+ warriors with a non-dex built nuker on a hp pill without KGing, killing 3 of them, medding, then going back to kill everyone else? If you can figure out which is which, do you see the difference between 9D knowledge and 9D experience?

Or better yet how about I'll use this one. How do you take SvS with a two man team without killing anyone? Does it matter who gets the first hit at YS?

I'm not like these other guys bro. I'll sit down and have a legit convo with you telling you why you're wrong and why I'm right. And if I'm wrong I won't flame you I'll just acknowledge it and move on. Enough of the off topic though. Good luck to anyone who gets chosen for mod.


like what ?
i dont think theres some left unknown on this game after 7 years

You'd be surprised. Some people still don't know how to run under GCM and end up on the other side of HZ if its a Pk map and things get too heated. It isn't even a bug exploit neither lol

DHumbled1
May 27th, 2014, 10:07 PM
We would like to thank Jamie9d for all his hard work in making this community better. He provided us with great insight into the game and we really appreciate his contributions. We understand that education takes priority and that sometimes it can be difficult to balance work and play. Having said that we will be looking for a new forum moderator. If anyone is interested please let us know either by PM or by responding on this thread. We will be looking for someone who knows the game well and is active on the forums. If anyone has any questions regarding this let us know.


Forum Moderator Application


Who are you?


Hello all I am D_Humbled_1, since the beginning of 9 Dragons Era many have
become to know me. Either by in game preferences or forum general discussions.


Tell us a little about yourself!


I'm a all around gamer that enjoys learning about a game, having fun with others
& teaching others how to play the game in general. My gaming perspectives lean to
looking for environment game bugs that relate to blocks of an object & why it renders
different type of outlooks. In life my goal is to become a Game Art & Developer which
for the past few years have lead me to meet great folks, lean new things & tell others
about the fun side of games in general.

Why should you be our next moderator?


If chosen to become a moderator of 9 Dragons, willing to provide
at least 8 through 16 hours on forum or within game time with
others assisting them with in game knowledge or game fun.


What makes you the best choice for moderator?


My ability to judge others fairly, giving others fair
warning according to the forums rule & regulations


Why should we pick you and not someone else?


My abilities to analyze extreme pressure, to comprehend all perspectives
of conversations between users, to assist when needed, help others if
possible.


"Seeing the glass half full is misleading in attitude as if you where
saying the glass is half empty!"


What one really needs to assess is that glass has capacity of 200 mL,
& it appears to have approximately 100 mL of water. Those who might
say it's full might not understand that it's not going to last forever,
they just might not acknowledge the missing part (weakness or shortcomings)
& those who say it's half empty might not realize what they already have
(strengths). So more balance & comprehensive thinking is objective
thinking with a bit of optimism in all case neither is right or
wrong.


Critical Analysis:


A player makes a report thread against another player, the posts following
are all negative and bash the player who made the report, or the person
being reported. How do you handle this?


* First, I'd go to the reported thread & read it's content.
* Second, after reviewing the thread depending on its content give appropriate warning.
* Last, follow up with notes about what took place, what actions or warning was taken.


A new forum account shows up and the owner spams the entire forum with threads linking
to another private server. Explain the measures you would take to clean up the forums
and deal with the forum account owner.


* First, look at the thread content.
* Second, text message "Thread closed" within the thread
* Final, follow up with notes about why thread was closed
if possible move to archives if requested.


My Availability:


Willing to give forums 4 - 16 hours per day.
Willing to be in Skype with others.
My Time Zone: CST

BizaRRe123
May 28th, 2014, 12:44 AM
You have no idea...

surprise me

NameLess113
May 28th, 2014, 06:56 AM
surprise me


expect me to just throw outta window with info`s about critical stuff???

Jamie9d
May 28th, 2014, 09:23 AM
I don't believe in applications because they don't show how a person deals with situations, they only show how they deal with them in words. I never made the position by an application, I was given the position because I proved that I wanted to help. I have a good feeling about Humbled but words only mean so much.

You don't need a fancy application, you just need compassion and that passionate drive to make everyone's experience a little better.

Kp17095c3DWBD3x
May 28th, 2014, 09:30 AM
I myself am a former moderator and when worked before and really acted on a strict rule

BizaRRe123
May 28th, 2014, 09:31 AM
expect me to just throw outta window with info`s about critical stuff???

oh yea..you talk about all of those forbidden black magic spells that gives us critical ?:ROLLEYES:
lets keep the secret for ourselves ;)

NameLess113
May 28th, 2014, 10:04 AM
oh yea..you talk about all of those forbidden black magic spells that gives us critical ?:ROLLEYES:
lets keep the secret for ourselves ;)


learn to read??

Jamie9d
May 28th, 2014, 10:19 AM
I myself am a former moderator and when worked before and really acted on a strict rule

You don't need to be strict, you just need to be fair. There is a huge difference in fueling dictatorship and sharing a democracy.

BizaRRe123
May 28th, 2014, 10:41 AM
I was given the position because I proved that I wanted to help..

or maybe you was the only one who sent them the application ?o.o

Gemjunky
May 28th, 2014, 11:25 AM
the interview process ...

http://youtu.be/zP0sqRMzkwo

Jamie9d
May 28th, 2014, 11:59 AM
or maybe you was the only one who sent them the application ?o.o

"I never made the position by an application" Do you not read the previous posts?

BizaRRe123
May 29th, 2014, 12:35 AM
"I never made the position by an application"

i can bet you begged the GM for that position

Jamie9d
May 29th, 2014, 02:59 PM
i can bet you begged the GM for that position

Why would I beg them for a position where I have to deal with players like you on a daily basis? I took the position because it was offered to me so I could try and make a difference. What exactly have you done to help? Did I beg like you Q.Q me to lag hack your items into storage and promised not to tell anyone - you're such a hypocrite.

Sercova
May 29th, 2014, 03:02 PM
Hi guys, could I ask you two to take this argument to PMs or just end it now? Thanks ^_^

Kkid
May 29th, 2014, 06:34 PM
i can bet you begged the GM for that position

I chose Jamie as a MOD because he stepped up to help me with issues when we were opening up 9Dragons. He was a great help, and had great information.

New Moderators chosen all go through trial periods where there moderated actions are watched. The decisions are final unless changes are needed to be made.

Ozmliad
May 29th, 2014, 09:17 PM
I agree, Jamie earned his mod position.

Gemjunky
May 29th, 2014, 09:27 PM
Just trying to be humorous, I know you guys dont run things that way ... lol