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Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 10:31 AM
June 7th, 2016 UPDATE: Servers are now back online!

Servers will be going shutting down at 11:00AM EST for a maintenance as well as a new patch will be rolling in.

Find more information about the update at the link below.

http://*******/1Ujk5tW

We do not yet have an estimated time of completion for the maintenance.

We apologize for the inconvenience this caused.

Fujomiko25
June 2nd, 2016, 10:41 AM
Please prioritize first fixing the problem with dupers and spammers.

NearKenje
June 2nd, 2016, 11:09 AM
Accounts who had the cycle of those duped items should be permanently banned, and duped items must be deleted.

Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 11:09 AM
Accounts who had the cycle of those duped items should be permanently banned, and duped items must be deleted.

I'm currently deleting all the duped items as well as the suspected duped items.

NearKenje
June 2nd, 2016, 11:11 AM
I'm currently deleting all the duped items as well as the suspected duped items.

Thanks Joof. And how about those accounts made duped items?

Paladinech7BG6V
June 2nd, 2016, 11:13 AM
Thank you for crushing the duped items. I just hope you guys can push out the unique weapons, Armor and Accessory sets soon. That and fix attract circle so my defense actually starts to make sense again.

Apasajabol2f518
June 2nd, 2016, 11:15 AM
fix it plz gm JOOF , we trust this luna can be better ...

Tonguefun
June 2nd, 2016, 11:16 AM
Servers will be going shutting down at 11:00AM EST for a maintenance as well as a new patch will be rolling in.

Find more information about the update at the link below.

http://*******/1Ujk5tW

We do not yet have an estimated time of completion for the maintenance.

We apologize for the inconvenience this caused.

I really do feel for you these days man.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 11:17 AM
another maintenance? At least there is a update, I hope it's not too long this is my day off
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Scottyskilz
June 2nd, 2016, 11:19 AM
so if I bought a duped item it will be destroyed??? cause I bought a 4* pet for a lot of gold (50m) now that $ is gone???

JohnpaulcanL406
June 2nd, 2016, 11:22 AM
We Cant stop and We wont stop <3 R.I.P

Lightingwolf125
June 2nd, 2016, 11:30 AM
another maintenance? At least there is a update, I hope it's not too long this is my day off
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

I know how you feel it seems like everytime i'm off and can paly luna for longer then one hour boom maintenance.

Fazar55LxH0nnpN
June 2nd, 2016, 11:33 AM
We need that fix you the spammers in game pls <3

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 11:52 AM
I know how you feel it seems like everytime i'm off and can paly luna for longer then one hour boom maintenance.


they need to schedule a day they do maintenance instead of it be random or everyday. because despite it needing severe fixing I have a horrendous addiction that needs its bloody luna fix.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 11:54 AM
Why.
Don't we just go back to the old system.
Where we craft and get enchant scrolls through Dungeon Dates and Bosses
Why don't we change the pet system back to the way it was. or get rid of first strike.
these items take forever to get on your own.
if you made it easier for people to upgrade then dupes wouldn't happen as much since everyone has a chance to actually get these items.
like i don't even understand the enchant system and the enchanting the same item and same level takes hours of grinding to get +1 item and if it's not the same level you enchanted, let's say +2 you have to get another of the +1 item to get it to +2 to even increase that item to +3.
On top of that doing all that takes so much gold and we get such little gold from mops and bosses, bosses should drop more gold it shouldn't be the same amount you get in alker gate, hence why the gold sellers are so bloody obnoxious and clog up alker
like we don't even have protect scrolls we have 30% increase of a protection wtf?
and wtf are this piera stones?
I really don't want to pay to win or be satisfied.
I have to have upgraded things to be able to even fight these freaking bosses and mops because they are stupid strong.
the quest suck at exp so everyone endlessly grinds and gets bored.
I know your patching and fixing stuff. but stop giving them reasons to dupe.
they know they can make mad gold because of the fact barely any players can obtain these items in game.
At least think about it.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Lightingwolf125
June 2nd, 2016, 11:55 AM
they need to schedule a day they do maintenance instead of it be random or everyday. because despite it needing severe fixing I have a horrendous addiction that needs its bloody luna fix.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Same like you i played on gpotato as well nd i want my luna i waited 10 years i want my fix lol XD

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 12:11 PM
Same like you i played on gpotato as well nd i want my luna i waited 10 years i want my fix lol XD


Yes so you understand when I nearly had a heart attack when I found out luna was back.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

FoxyLynn
June 2nd, 2016, 12:14 PM
Why.
Don't we just go back to the old system.
Where we craft and get enchant scrolls through Dungeon Dates and Bosses
Why don't we change the pet system back to the way it was. or get rid of first strike.
these items take forever to get on your own.
if you made it easier for people to upgrade then dupes wouldn't happen as much since everyone has a chance to actually get these items.
like i don't even understand the enchant system and the enchanting the same item and same level takes hours of grinding to get +1 item and if it's not the same level you enchanted, let's say +2 you have to get another of the +1 item to get it to +2 to even increase that item to +3.
On top of that doing all that takes so much gold and we get such little gold from mops and bosses, bosses should drop more gold it shouldn't be the same amount you get in alker gate, hence why the gold sellers are so bloody obnoxious and clog up alker
like we don't even have protect scrolls we have 30% increase of a protection wtf?
and wtf are this piera stones?
I really don't want to pay to win or be satisfied.
I have to have upgraded things to be able to even fight these freaking bosses and mops because they are stupid strong.
the quest suck at exp so everyone endlessly grinds and gets bored.
I know your patching and fixing stuff. but stop giving them reasons to dupe.
they know they can make mad gold because of the fact barely any players can obtain these items in game.
At least think about it.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

I agree with almost everything you said. Though I do like the first strike feature but I have always played a priest/bishop/rune master/saint and I like my pet getting the first hit to draw aggro. But if we had a way to command the pet to attack a designated monster without using it's skill up we wouldn't NEED first strike. (which sometimes ****s up and targets the monster farthest away from you)
But I still agree with almost everything you said

ArrufLfais7OMn8
June 2nd, 2016, 12:21 PM
waiting again spongeboob :lol::lol::eek:

ArrufLfais7OMn8
June 2nd, 2016, 12:28 PM
38361

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 12:28 PM
I agree with almost everything you said. Though I do like the first strike feature but I have always played a priest/bishop/rune master/saint and I like my pet getting the first hit to draw aggro. But if we had a way to command the pet to attack a designated monster without using it's skill up we wouldn't NEED first strike. (which sometimes ****s up and targets the monster farthest away from you)
But I still agree with almost everything you said

I understand I was thinking of going priest then inq but waiting for the next job tier as a priest is kinda scaring me away. I also put my pet into support though because the pet just kinda draws anyone and then they either come running at me or i have to run away. but I haven't used first strike enough to have a big opinion on it.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Skelduzz
June 2nd, 2016, 12:28 PM
waiting again spongeboob :lol::lol::eek:


https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=45139057

Jim427
June 2nd, 2016, 12:30 PM
who would dupe in a shhkit game why

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 12:31 PM
who would dupe in a shhkit game why


people who know that they can get buyers since the items are so rare they barely exist
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

NearKenje
June 2nd, 2016, 12:42 PM
Servers will be going shutting down at 11:00AM EST for a maintenance as well as a new patch will be rolling in.

Find more information about the update at the link below.

http://*******/1Ujk5tW

We do not yet have an estimated time of completion for the maintenance.

We apologize for the inconvenience this caused.

LOL. The time indicated was deleted. :D

Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 12:44 PM
LOL. The time indicated was deleted. :D

It was ]: , ran into technical issues + this is taking a lot longer than I expected because so many people bought the duped items.

NearKenje
June 2nd, 2016, 12:47 PM
It was ]: , ran into technical issues + this is taking a lot longer than I expected because so many people bought the duped items.

I expected that though. :)

And I hope not to see again those dupers' accnt/chars.

Scottyskilz
June 2nd, 2016, 12:53 PM
GM Please answer my question.....if I paid 50m for a 4 star pet that was duped do I get my money back?????

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 12:56 PM
It was ]: , ran into technical issues + this is taking a lot longer than I expected because so many people bought the duped items.


Joof you do a good job as GM to a very broken again. THANK YOU
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 12:57 PM
GM Please answer my question.....if I paid 50m for a 4 star pet that was duped do I get my money back?????


you need to place a ticket if they take it away. but you already bought that one pet, i think they are going after stacks of items not just one pet
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Paladinech7BG6V
June 2nd, 2016, 01:12 PM
It was ]: , ran into technical issues + this is taking a lot longer than I expected because so many people bought the duped items.

The people this time knowingly bought the duped items and were glorifying it in chat today. They were doing it so much, that I wouldn't even care if you guys did a rollback. They blatantly mocked the game mechanic and bought the items and talked trash about how the game was going to flop today. It was like the end of the world to them and they went crazy, so I really don't have much sympathy for a rollback.


I hope you guys win this time. You guys seem motivated to make this happen. Definitely sticking around to see how this turns out. This is way better than previous GM results with this game. Thank you guys for your hard work and beating back the nay sayers of the forums. Think it will be a good game if you guys keep fighting.

Fingers still crossed you guys get rid of that tanking bug/mechanic that does 10X so I can help the server level.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 01:14 PM
The people this time knowingly bought the duped items and were glorifying it in chat today. I hope you guys win this time. You guys seem motivated to make this happen. Definitely sticking around to see how this turns out. This is way better than previous GM results with this game. Thank you guys for your hard work and beating back the nay sayers of the forums. Think it will be a good game if you guys keep fighting.

Fingers still crossed you guys get rid of that tanking bug/mechanic that does 10X so I can help the server level.


no matter all the problems I'm honestly going to keep playing. this was and is my favorite online game. never played WoW but I don't want to pay to play
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

ArrufLfais7OMn8
June 2nd, 2016, 01:19 PM
38362

kwkwwkkwkww :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Erasias
June 2nd, 2016, 02:10 PM
when is the maintenance going to be over? lol i literally just downloaded luna last night to play today waking up to maintenance , im looking forward to it since updates and stuff but cmonnnnnn its 2pm already :'( :'( :'( i cant wait T_T

Dakaroth
June 2nd, 2016, 02:13 PM
when is the maintenance going to be over? lol i literally just downloaded luna last night to play today waking up to maintenance , im looking forward to it since updates and stuff but cmonnnnnn its 2pm already :'( :'( :'( i cant wait T_T

I suggest you find something els to do for the day. It's gonna' take some time.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 02:38 PM
do we have an estimate at least how long it will be?
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Toujours
June 2nd, 2016, 02:43 PM
So much salt. :3

Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 02:45 PM
do we have an estimate at least how long it will be?


As of right now, we need the developers to get back to us as we may have found a solution to the duping. In the meantime, I am working on deleting all the duped items right now.

Anthemica
June 2nd, 2016, 02:50 PM
As of right now, we need the developers to get back to us as we may have found a solution to the duping. In the meantime, I am working on deleting all the duped items right now.
Thank you for your hard work. There are some people who support what you do and are willing to remain patient. We love Luna and we want you to do whatever you can to keep this game running.

SFGiants
June 2nd, 2016, 02:51 PM
GM JooF answer my question please

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 02:52 PM
As of right now, we need the developers to get back to us as we may have found a solution to the duping. In the meantime, I am working on deleting all the duped items right now.


Awe OK, and since it's like 3am or something there it wont be until like night time or tomorrow. wish eyasoft would hire devs on our time zone
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Scottyskilz
June 2nd, 2016, 02:55 PM
GM JooF if I paid 40m for a pet and it was duped will you refund my gold??? please answer 2nd request

Scottyskilz
June 2nd, 2016, 02:56 PM
what is the compensation gonna be this time????? im tired of this crap please fix it

Shehroz
June 2nd, 2016, 03:28 PM
As of right now, we need the developers to get back to us as we may have found a solution to the duping. In the meantime, I am working on deleting all the duped items right now.

its currently 4:23 AM in Korea so most likely the deves must be sleeping atm and after they wake up they have yet to start working on the issue so it is safe the game will be down for a further 3 to 4 hours

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 03:45 PM
its currently 4:23 AM in Korea so most likely the deves must be sleeping atm and after they wake up they have yet to start working on the issue so it is safe the game will be down for a further 3 to 4 hours


hey, well at least they found a fix, I need to get off my arse and do something productive, I wonder though If I could be apart of custom or mount ideas.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Erasias
June 2nd, 2016, 04:35 PM
IM GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not rly but ugh lol :'(

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 04:56 PM
IM GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not rly but ugh lol :'(


i get what your saying
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

3agroob
June 2nd, 2016, 05:01 PM
not sure if another person mentioned or tried this .. or u are informed..
i tried to use the Farm both life stock and planting .. both were not clickable .. i have them both at lvl 3 and cant use the farm..
please tell me if its the game glitch that need to be fixed or what .-.

thanks in advance

Azure13260i3yDT
June 2nd, 2016, 05:11 PM
Hi. While they are on it fixing. Kindly include a music background at alker harbor. Thanks a lot.
And oh.I like to suggest day/night transition in luna if possible xD

Lanacallaw1FYr8
June 2nd, 2016, 05:19 PM
i had just downloaded the game ive been waiting to come out for years, played an hour then there was maintenance for a day! i stayed up all night waiting then got to play yesterday then more maintenance and ive just been waiting all night, its like 7:11am atm, im so tired the server has been down more than its been up. for me at least. i think im gonna cry :'( (although this may be induced by lack of sleep).

SFGiants
June 2nd, 2016, 05:28 PM
where do I go to ask for a refund?

FatalDenial
June 2nd, 2016, 05:28 PM
you'll have to wait till the dev's wake up they are based in korea its its like 6:30 am there so you'll have to wait till dev's get up and get to work

Shehroz
June 2nd, 2016, 05:34 PM
ok suba here a tip DO NOT SHUT THE SERVERS DOWN WHEN THE DEVES ARE SLEEPING :MAD:

Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 05:35 PM
ok suba here a tip DO NOT SHUT THE SERVERS DOWN WHEN THE DEVES ARE SLEEPING :MAD:

We shutdown the servers to stop the dupers from duping. Unless you want to have more duped items circulating the economy, I think shutting down the server as soon as possible is the best action to take.

Dakaroth
June 2nd, 2016, 05:39 PM
http://diep.io/

Come play :P

Shehroz
June 2nd, 2016, 05:43 PM
We shutdown the servers to stop the dupers from duping. Unless you want to have more duped items circulating the economy, I think shutting down the server as soon as possible is the best action to take.

so in other words the dupers are the ones to blame so tell me how bad are the dupers gonna get punished ? :MAD:

LordGrimx
June 2nd, 2016, 05:49 PM
We shutdown the servers to stop the dupers from duping. Unless you want to have more duped items circulating the economy, I think shutting down the server as soon as possible is the best action to take.

I know that this question is shameful but... Will there be compensation for the downtime? :o I know that the cause of the downtime are the dupers and the players who bought the duped items, but one can at least hope! :awsum:

Rapzx0Y3DhE362c
June 2nd, 2016, 06:26 PM
hahaha this is a funny game lol

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 2nd, 2016, 06:56 PM
I think there needs to be a way for us to directly report dupers, spammers, and bots. so that the staff can just directly ban them instead of having to shut down the server so much. because I have seen all 3 on multiple occasions (or atleast ones that might have been). if it will be easier to implement a system that will do a good job and can't be abused (please don't do an automated system) were you get a report and can look into it, if it's true, ban the IP address of the guilty. if it's not true, just move on with it.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 07:24 PM
I know that this question is shameful but... Will there be compensation for the downtime? :o I know that the cause of the downtime are the dupers and the players who bought the duped items, but one can at least hope! :awsum:


pretty sure compensation ^ ^
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 07:25 PM
I think there needs to be a way for us to directly report dupers, spammers, and bots. so that the staff can just directly ban them instead of having to shut down the server so much. because I have seen all 3 on multiple occasions (or atleast ones that might have been). if it will be easier to implement a system that will do a good job and can't be abused (please don't do an automated system) were you get a report and can look into it, if it's true, ban the IP address of the guilty. if it's not true, just move on with it.


https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88973
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LastDonut
June 2nd, 2016, 08:02 PM
I will just say after the perm fix the game needs to be wipe cause we all know deleting the items wont matter if most of them items was transfer into gold leading to rich pocket prices on things in the long run. more gold ingame the higher people charge for an item even if most can't afford it. but either way ya'll should had ask the community which luna we want classic[if kr has this still] or plus luna before bringing the game back to life.

SFGiants
June 2nd, 2016, 08:17 PM
this IS THE 3RD STRIKE..............YOURE OUT

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 08:27 PM
this IS THE 3RD STRIKE..............YOURE OUT


OK, goodbye then.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

FatalDenial
June 2nd, 2016, 08:30 PM
doubt there will be a wipe a lot of ppl spent real cash and to just wipe the game is a slap in the face to ppl that bought stuff with cash so i doubt there will be any wipes

RadiantRay
June 2nd, 2016, 08:31 PM
Tbh i think the game should've still been in CBTing

BlacknightorP3U
June 2nd, 2016, 08:33 PM
doubt there will be a wipe a lot of ppl spent real cash and to just wipe the game is a slap in the face to ppl that bought stuff with cash so i doubt there will be any wipes

Or...they could just give people their suba points back to spend again.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 08:34 PM
Or...they could just give people their suba points back to spend again.


Joof has already stated that they wont be doing a re-start
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LastDonut
June 2nd, 2016, 08:43 PM
kre he say that now but that don't mean its not in consideration. they human they can change their mind anytime with that. does it need a wipe right now? no cause things aren't perm fix yet. they should wipe after they bring perm costume, new updates, along with exp table changes, and perm fix.

SFGiants
June 2nd, 2016, 08:49 PM
can they perm fix my ass?

RadiantRay
June 2nd, 2016, 08:54 PM
can they perm fix my ass?

http://i63.tinypic.com/2cxhwr9.png

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 09:03 PM
kre he say that now but that don't mean its not in consideration. they human they can change their mind anytime with that. does it need a wipe right now? no cause things aren't perm fix yet. they should wipe after they bring perm costume, new updates, along with exp table changes, and perm fix.


True true I just don't want people spreading that they are when they aren't at least for now.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

CrazyMinMi
June 2nd, 2016, 09:06 PM
there should be a perm fix for dupes 3 times now still no fix player have been duping way before they made it public also time to take this a bit more serious as its missing up the economy. the millionaires list need to be watched because most of them players are dupers or have duped gold I know gm's are working hard some think you can log in game and insta fix I'm just saying duping need to be taken more serious no more this will stop duping for now kind of solutions .

LordGrimx
June 2nd, 2016, 09:06 PM
kre he say that now but that don't mean its not in consideration. they human they can change their mind anytime with that. does it need a wipe right now? no cause things aren't perm fix yet. they should wipe after they bring perm costume, new updates, along with exp table changes, and perm fix.

Question, why would a server wipe be necessary? The reason why the server went down for 1 day last time was due to dupers abusing an exploit and the same thing is happening now. If they indeed have a fix for the exploit they simply need to delete the duped items and apply the patch then just put the server back up. (if they weren't able to delete all the duped items and some gold got circulated then that is already negligible and can even help by circulating more gold, which we all need for actions like construction and enchanting)

As for the status of the game in regards to monster damage or stat balances, they already stated that the next patch will fix this issue. Also, at its current state, players are still able to reach 70 or 80 so I don't see why a server wipe would be necessary ever. (Why would they even wipe the server when the guys at lvl 70/80 put all that effort to reach that level?)

So with this in mind, I really don't see the point of a server wipe other than to level the playing field for new players. (I'm guessing that the people asking for a wipe are mostly the low levels around lvl 40 who want to overtake the older players at lvl 80)

Last note: Wiping the server is tantamount to the devs succumbing to dupers and punishing the hard workers who are currently at high levels. I believe I don't need to explain the reason for this.

Melodia1sttCetX
June 2nd, 2016, 09:07 PM
how about gold duper?? cause some people sell item in hugh price and duper but it

UPDATE: We are currently in the process of deleting all duped items as well as banning dupers. We thank you for your patience.

Servers will be going shutting down at 11:00AM EST for a maintenance as well as a new patch will be rolling in.

Find more information about the update at the link below.

http://*******/1Ujk5tW

We do not yet have an estimated time of completion for the maintenance.

We apologize for the inconvenience this caused.

LastDonut
June 2nd, 2016, 09:19 PM
Question, why would a server wipe be necessary? The reason why the server went down for 1 day last time was due to dupers abusing an exploit and the same thing is happening now. If they indeed have a fix for the exploit they simply need to delete the duped items and apply the patch then just put the server back up. (if they weren't able to delete all the duped items and some gold got circulated then that is already negligible and can even help by circulating more gold, which we all need for actions like construction and enchanting)

As for the status of the game in regards to monster damage or stat balances, they already stated that the next patch will fix this issue. Also, at its current state, players are still able to reach 70 or 80 so I don't see why a server wipe would be necessary ever. (Why would they even wipe the server when the guys at lvl 70/80 put all that effort to reach that level?)

So with this in mind, I really don't see the point of a server wipe other than to level the playing field for new players. (I'm guessing that the people asking for a wipe are mostly the low levels around lvl 40 who want to overtake the older players at lvl 80)

Last note: Wiping the server is tantamount to the devs succumbing to dupers and punishing the hard workers who are currently at high levels. I believe I don't need to explain the reason for this.

I could careless whos 75 right now as I said before after the wipe they can simple give levels back or boost exp real high for few weeks give better easier exp tables along with higher quest exp that goes up with scrolls/events. you think because someone is not lv75 they put no time in this game? a level 40 can login longer than anyone reaching level 75 and still not get level 75. levels mean nothing besides the fact your killing monsters. besides that I rather have a fair game than a game that cater to thoses who took advantage of this dupe fest that happen longer than you think. the gms wont catch every dupe item/gold they aren't robots they human they may get 50% out of another 50% thats not good enough. as simple as you try make it sound it breaks the econ specially for players that pay nothing to the game. this is same as having a virus on your pc your pc working strange and protection wasn't strong enough? full clean uninstall the whole system and start new and reinstall OS wala working perfect again. point is if no wipe you will see the results and it will be ugly regardless if they perm fix or not.

BadMadzMaru
June 2nd, 2016, 09:29 PM
I wonder if ther server will be up tonight :confused:

CrazyMinMi
June 2nd, 2016, 09:34 PM
I wonder if ther server will be up tonight :confused: no prolly not because everyone needs to be checked because buy and supporting duper made things worse

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 09:35 PM
They already found a fix to the duping. That Joof stated we are just waiting for the Devs who are in South Korea
and like I said before they aren't shutting down, not now at least.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Tenjaketime
June 2nd, 2016, 09:36 PM
hmm servers been down most of the day snice 9:30am I guess will have to wait until Friday cause the process takes long time to check who has dupe items and whos doing the duping

LordGrimx
June 2nd, 2016, 09:44 PM
Firstly, I just want to state that I am not antagonizing you or undermining your efforts in anyway and am just stating an opinion and at the same time posing a question.

As you said the players who are level 70 or w/e can be listed and given back their levels once the server gets wiped, but remember they also have equips and like you said everyone could've spent more time at lower levels than this guys so all the more reason to not wipe.

If you're going to say that they're gonna give back each and everyone's levels back and their items which is at +9 or something then that's basically the same as not wiping at all since you stated that they were human then if that item they're returning is a duped one and they weren't aware of it then that would just result on the same thing as not wiping the server at all.

On the other hand, if you're saying that it's okay to just wipe the gears completely as well as wipe the lvl 40- chars (Whom you stated could've spent more time doing other stuff than those lvl 70s in-game) then that would be completely unfair to them as well as. Obviously, the GM's won't be able to return hundreds of player's levels and/or items.

Once again, I'm simply stating my side on this subject of server wipe as it has been circulating around the forums lately for some reason and am not trying to offend you in any way, I get what you're saying but a server wipe will just make the situation more complicated. (in my opinion)

(To be honest I would really like to know why this is still a thing since krechar already stated that the devs aren't considering the idea of a server wipe.)

CrazyMinMi
June 2nd, 2016, 09:45 PM
first they made it so we can no longer split items said this should prevent dupes people still dupe. Then they made it so we can no longer trade people are still duping. I wouldn't be surprised if next solution still fail we need hack shield no more temporary fix's as any can tell they are not working only taking away the useful things a player can do in game.

KaizerD
June 2nd, 2016, 09:59 PM
first they made it so we can no longer split items said this should prevent dupes people still dupe. Then they made it so we can no longer trade people are still duping. I wouldn't be surprised if next solution still fail we need hack shield no more temporary fix's as any can tell they are not working only taking away the useful things a player can do in game.

At this point in time from what I heard, those were only supposed to be temporary fixes until they found the main causes, which they have now. As far as i have heard they are working on the permanent fix as we speak.

LastDonut
June 2nd, 2016, 10:01 PM
Firstly, I just want to state that I am not antagonizing you or undermining your efforts in anyway and am just stating an opinion and at the same time posing a question.

As you said the players who are level 70 or w/e can be listed and given back their levels once the server gets wiped, but remember they also have equips and like you said everyone could've spent more time at lower levels than this guys so all the more reason to not wipe.

If you're going to say that they're gonna give back each and everyone's levels back and their items which is at +9 or something then that's basically the same as not wiping at all since you stated that they were human then if that item they're returning is a duped one and they weren't aware of it then that would just result on the same thing as not wiping the server at all.

On the other hand, if you're saying that it's okay to just wipe the gears completely as well as wipe the lvl 40- chars (Whom you stated could've spent more time doing other stuff than those lvl 70s in-game) then that would be completely unfair to them as well as. Obviously, the GM's won't be able to return hundreds of player's levels and/or items.

Once again, I'm simply stating my side on this subject of server wipe as it has been circulating around the forums lately for some reason and am not trying to offend you in any way, I get what you're saying but a server wipe will just make the situation more complicated. (in my opinion)

(To be honest I would really like to know why this is still a thing since krechar already stated that the devs aren't considering the idea of a server wipe.)

I said that for crys baby that care too much about their levels than the state of the game. If i had my way if i was the gm I would make a official poll having players choose luna plus or classic luna before wipe. I would go with whatever has the highest vote count. if its classic luna I would revert it to old classic luna maybe some plus features but still classic luna. and if they pick luna plus instead I would wipe the server. then throw a nice exp event so you spend 20 times less grinding for lv70 or 60 or whatever. refund sp spent and put in a starter pack that gives a full set gears every 10 levels +5 encht decent philo stats to help players get gears since they will be leveling real fast for 1 week.[this goes with luna plus and classic luna] but I would do this after I know fixs are perm exp tables are fixed monsters are fixed etc.

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 2nd, 2016, 10:04 PM
*slides large hypothetical box out in front of everyone* it's obvious this might take a day or two (maybe more) everyone needs to dig through this hypothetical box and find something to do in the mean time that doesn't involve pointless complaining and rumor spreading and give the Developers and GMs the time concentrate and fix everything.

LastDonut
June 2nd, 2016, 10:04 PM
Where did you hear that? Do you have direct communication with the devs? If so that explains a lot of the white-knight attitude you've had for a while now.

yeah man they hide out in skype and discord. too scared of forums.. not devs but gms.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 10:09 PM
first they made it so we can no longer split items said this should prevent dupes people still dupe. Then they made it so we can no longer trade people are still duping. I wouldn't be surprised if next solution still fail we need hack shield no more temporary fix's as any can tell they are not working only taking away the useful things a player can do in game.

the trading disable was temporary it was stated.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Joof
June 2nd, 2016, 10:14 PM
yeah man they hide out in skype and discord. too scared of forums.. not devs but gms.

It's not true that I update Discord or Skype more, I always post on the forums before forwarding it to Discord + Facebook.

Most of the time, I don't really have time to go through every post that everyone has made when I'm deleting duped items and talking with the developers.

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 10:17 PM
I said that for crys baby that care too much about their levels than the state of the game. If i had my way if i was the gm I would make a official poll having players choose luna plus or classic luna before wipe. I would go with whatever has the highest vote count. if its classic luna I would revert it to old classic luna maybe some plus features but still classic luna. and if they pick luna plus instead I would wipe the server. then throw a nice exp event so you spend 20 times less grinding for lv70 or 60 or whatever. refund sp spent and put in a starter pack that gives a full set gears every 10 levels +5 encht decent philo stats to help players get gears since they will be leveling real fast for 1 week.[this goes with luna plus and classic luna] but I would do this after I know fixs are perm exp tables are fixed monsters are fixed etc.

might as well be the developer too and work with no one but yourself since the GMs aren't the ones who decide, they need permission. and I'm pretty sure the company comes to decisions. as well as these changes don't just happen with a snap of your finger.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 10:18 PM
yeah man they hide out in skype and discord. too scared of forums.. not devs but gms.


They don't hide on skype or discord, Joof and Squidward communicate through forums, they don't need to answer every five minutes or be any players friends. there here to address the biggest issues at hand
first. right now it's the dupers.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

KaizerD
June 2nd, 2016, 10:19 PM
yeah man they hide out in skype and discord. too scared of forums.. not devs but gms.

lol do you not see me on the forums? I am on all the time.


Where did you hear that? Do you have direct communication with the devs? If so that explains a lot of the white-knight comments you have posted all over the place.

lol white knight comments

Krechar
June 2nd, 2016, 10:19 PM
*slides large hypothetical box out in front of everyone* it's obvious this might take a day or two (maybe more) everyone needs to dig through this hypothetical box and find something to do in the mean time that doesn't involve pointless complaining and rumor spreading and give the Developers and GMs the time concentrate and fix everything.


this +50000000000000000000000
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LordGrimx
June 2nd, 2016, 10:25 PM
I said that for crys baby that care too much about their levels than the state of the game. If i had my way if i was the gm I would make a official poll having players choose luna plus or classic luna before wipe. I would go with whatever has the highest vote count. if its classic luna I would revert it to old classic luna maybe some plus features but still classic luna. and if they pick luna plus instead I would wipe the server. then throw a nice exp event so you spend 20 times less grinding for lv70 or 60 or whatever. refund sp spent and put in a starter pack that gives a full set gears every 10 levels +5 encht decent philo stats to help players get gears since they will be leveling real fast for 1 week.[this goes with luna plus and classic luna] but I would do this after I know fixs are perm exp tables are fixed monsters are fixed etc.

That indeed sounds really good an appealing, but keep in mind that a poll rarely ends with 90% of the participants choosing one option. As we can see in the server wipe poll, the opinions of the players as split evenly. So to entertain the situation that you provided where you are the GM and a poll is introduced, the people would probably choose something like "I want a mix of both" and then state the things they wish to put in from both sides.

This is actually happening now, the devs are changing stuffs on patches according to the threads posted in the luna forums such as stat changes, damage balances, etc. As for fixes to hackers... well, one can only hope that a perfect fix can be introduced somehow.

But seriously, they already stated that they won't be doing any wiping just yet (that sounds really weird:O) so... Yeah.. I'm pretty sure it's the wait that's getting to us. Sorry btw, if I offended you somehow (I'm not really sure if I did but if I did then sorry for that D:)

Anthemica
June 2nd, 2016, 10:47 PM
"Lol" What's funny is that you didn't asnwer the question. You are probably try harding on forums attempting to be a Mod. I also find it funny Joof is online now.
You obviously feel threatened by his postings. What the hell is your problem? We are on Discord, asking questions and Joof is politely responding. Wanna know why we are there? Because everyone else, (people like you) got banned for trolling/complaining. So anyone who responds with the correct responses is automatically a white knight? Pfft. No, we aren't children who complain and rage over a BRAND NEW game.

RuRuRuRuRu
June 2nd, 2016, 11:05 PM
"Lol" What's funny is that you didn't asnwer the question. You are probably try harding on forums attempting to be a Mod. I also find it funny Joof is online now.

Joof is staying up past midnight so that he can talk with the korean developers.

Tenjaketime
June 2nd, 2016, 11:18 PM
we got a good GM that works hard to fix the problems that's keeps poping up cause people want to dupe items and uses cheates so they mess up prices just give it time it will get fix so we can play again

Fazar55LxH0nnpN
June 2nd, 2016, 11:40 PM
That's where the adm should pay attention and get all the spam and spammers with a filter so that not keep happening

Anthemica
June 2nd, 2016, 11:50 PM
The lack luster argument of assuming I am " everyone else, (people like you) got banned for trolling/complaining" just makes you look more stupid. I kinda feel bad for responding to this comment but anyone with a brain can clearly see the white-knight in your post history and a couple of others. Circle jerking comments on a specific statement to avoid a coherent argument doesn't imply you are in the right.
Just because you're angry and want to be like everyone else by raging doesn't make you right. I love how you took the time to view my search history. It truly shows how much my comment affected you. So I guess I'm not stupid like you think. Everyone who got banned (everyone else) were trolling/raging in Discord. Had you been there, I'm sure you would've gotten banned, too. Luna will be back. I can clearly see that you're impatient, so it's ok to be angry. Just because someone responds differently than you doesn't make them a white-knight. What argument are you even talking about? The only thing I see you asked is if we are on Discord. Which I told you, we are. Jekuty was responding POLITELY to MinMi about the duping solution. He had an answer because the GM told us, on DISCORD. And you chose to respond rudely because you're somehow angered by his responses. Everyone on Discord can see it. Get over it.

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 2nd, 2016, 11:52 PM
That's where the adm should pay attention and get all the spam and spammers with a filter so that not keep happening

either that or give us a small /ignore command that allows us to block a specific player. that way, even if they are spamming, it's pointless cause we can just ignore them and free up the chat on our screens.

XTeeez
June 3rd, 2016, 12:15 AM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/766/053/409.gif

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 12:15 AM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/766/053/409.gif


this is such a good gif
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 12:16 AM
either that or give us a small /ignore command that allows us to block a specific player. that way, even if they are spamming, it's pointless cause we can just ignore them and free up the chat on our screens.


that sounds amazing actually
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 12:36 AM
Honestly you should rename yourself to Anthemica Assume. I highlighted some of the text above and from your way of writing your basis for arguing is putting yourself on a pedestal and infering any assumptions you make are absolute. Read, *****. I pointed out KaizerD had some type of connections to the developers outside of the forums since he is making statements on changes developers have not confirmed yet and from what I can tell he has been right. I asked a couple of questions while calling him out on his prior post history. He wanted to avoid the argument and that kinda viladated my statement, makes me think the only reason he gets on here and replys to most threads defending the GM's is because he hopes to become a MOD on forums. I might be completely wrong on the last part but these are not baseless assumptions since from what I can tell I have been right so far on my prior alegations.


Honestly all you guys need to stop fighting and jumping to conclusions.
the point of the matter right now is the fixing of the Dupes, which the devs are working on.
all these unnecessary insults and complaints you can do in private messages we honestly can't have a discussion civilly without it becoming heated and people getting offended by someone else's opinion I'm also not calling you out mylunafix20jrw

please
to each their own people
Agree to Disagree
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 12:54 AM
Honestly you should rename yourself to Anthemica Assume. I highlighted some of the text above and from your way of writing your basis for arguing is putting yourself on a pedestal and infering any assumptions you make are absolute. Read, *****. I pointed out KaizerD had some type of connections to the developers outside of the forums since he is making statements on changes developers have not confirmed yet and from what I can tell he has been right. I asked a couple of questions while calling him out on his prior post history. He wanted to avoid the argument and that kinda viladated my statement, makes me think the only reason he gets on here and replys to most threads defending the GM's is because he hopes to become a MOD on forums. I might be completely wrong on the last part but these are not baseless assumptions since from what I can tell I have been right so far on my prior alegations.
So, you're responding to Jekuty from a separate post? Well, had I searched your post history, I would have known that, I guess. It's really not that deep. But yes, we are on Discord, and yes, they are giving us (some) information. It is fair to assume he wants to be a MOD. But truly, we are all trying to be patient and getting upset is such a waste of time. I don't know, maybe I'm just not one to complain when I feel that someone is doing their best to fix something. I was wrong to assume.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 12:57 AM
Look, you're not Gandhi. There's nothing more annoying on forums,"Stop the keyboard violence"? Is basically what you are telling me. This is a forum. We are meant to discuss things and sadly It's not sunshine and rainbows all the time. So unless you have something meaningful to add to the conversation, save it.


yes this is a forum but go actually to the thread where you talk about things and complain about stuff. not here. this has got out of hand, if you think whatever you are saying helps in anyway for the game and that it will fix it by flaming a thread with complaints or assumptions by all means.
but honestly
everyone is just repeating themselves, and if what you said before didn't grant your wish, what makes you think this will?
But go ahead and feed the fire.
bottom line this thread was for updates on how the game was doing with this patch and Joof was giving us updates until everyone just started posting things that don't belong in this thread. Even I did.
I'm not "Gandhi".
Nice manners by the way.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 12:59 AM
So, you're responding to Jekuty from a separate post? Well, had I searched your post history, I would have known that, I guess. It's really not that deep. But yes, we are on Discord, and yes, they are giving us (some) information. It is fair to assume he wants to be a MOD. But truly, we are all trying to be patient and getting upset is such a waste of time. I don't know, maybe I'm just not one to complain when I feel that someone is doing their best to fix something. I was wrong to assume.


it's best not to respond, when someone clearly wants to argue and has to have an attitude, with insults to boot it up.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 01:03 AM
wait so yall not even discussing the game. yall wanna argue and not none of ya a GM. fix it Lord. yeah i shouldn't care but i do. it's people like yall that makes the games and forums suck for people like me.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 01:06 AM
wait so yall not even discussing the game. yall wanna argue and not none of ya a GM. fix it Lord. yeah i shouldn't care but i do. it's people like yall that makes the games and forums suck for people like me.


We were discussing it and actually getting GM updates but a whole bunch of people started to complain and even actually spam demanding things on this post when they are suppose to go get a ticket. :/ Like there are literally only two GMs and they are doing the best they can with the many subscribers in this game.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LordGrimx
June 3rd, 2016, 01:07 AM
wait so yall not even discussing the game. yall wanna argue and not none of ya a GM. fix it Lord. yeah i shouldn't care but i do. it's people like yall that makes the games and forums suck for people like me.

Hiya! I'm not really sure if you're referring to me but can you please elaborate? xD I could just be overthinking this and you're instead referring to some other "Lord" but if this was meant for me then color me confused... or just color me blue since that's my favorite color :p

Edit: Actually can you just pm it to me instead xD (If you are talkin to me that is) This thread is being spammed too much :EEK:

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 01:18 AM
Hiya! I'm not really sure if you're referring to me but can you please elaborate? xD I could just be overthinking this and you're instead referring to some other "Lord" but if this was meant for me then color me confused... or just color me blue since that's my favorite color :p

Edit: Actually can you just pm it to me instead xD (If you are talkin to me that is) This thread is being spammed too much :EEK:

I'll keep it here so maybe people can get back one the right tack.

You are cool man I wasn't talking to you and lord fix it is just an expression to the actual Lord God. Being that the few pages I did read trying to find out how long or any info on the updates and patches. I see spams of crap discussions on having really nothing to do with the game, because of idiots that don't know how to keep the forum discussions in the right threads.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 01:20 AM
First post on history? Making another account just to say that. It's game related as it concerned the relay of information between the community and the developers.


no one made that account if your talking about me, that is an actual user...

http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 01:22 AM
First post on history? Making another account just to say that. It's game related as it concerned the relay of information between the community and the developers.

Just for the record this is my only account I used to play Luna when Gpotato ran the show years back and I only go to the forums to get key info not the crap i've been seeing. Im just sayin. But you know everyone has a** so everyone has an opinion.

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 01:32 AM
I have edited my post but my main statement still stands. I can also say the same thing about your statement but at that point, it's kinda petty.

And that you are right. I did make a few silly comments only because i haven't really seen any useful info. I have nothing against real discussions of any part of the game and it's not my place to determine which discussions of the game is real or not so I retract my previous statement of people being idiots or whoever took it that way.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 01:50 AM
yay
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 01:54 AM
yay
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

is the server up or you just yaying to the previous post of mine.

Joof
June 3rd, 2016, 01:57 AM
is the server up or you just yaying to the previous post of mine.

I updated the original post, I think he is referring to that.

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 3rd, 2016, 02:02 AM
I updated the original post, I think he is referring to that.

lol yeah thanks cause I just logged in and got nothing. it's great to get real game info. lol I need the GMs personal line. J/P

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 02:25 AM
They don't hide on skype or discord, Joof and Squidward communicate through forums, they don't need to answer every five minutes or be any players friends. there here to address the biggest issues at hand
first. right now it's the dupers.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)


lol do you not see me on the forums? I am on all the time.



lol white knight comments

well I will start with jek ok well..1 your not a gm so I don't care if you hiding so there was no reason for you to reply to it. as ''they'' meant the gms. as for kre you think a few notices=not hiding? any1 can pop up and say A BOMB WENT OFF HIDE GUYS. but then theres the site guess what the main site still says? LOL guess what it says about this game? LOOOL 95% of the posts they do are server downtime thats the ONLY time they try be ''some what active'' and this is after alot of complaining. then theres the lacking information you don't always get posted but I bet you will get all your updates and answers on skype and discord. you know places no1 should go to get information from a gm? yeah them places, you also say they not here to be our friends? what makes you think I'm here to be friends with them? I could careless if they hate me dislike me or cool with me I'm here for the game not to make them into my slaves. if you check any other game forum you'll realize your wrong on many stuff you said only posting when server down is actually nothing. and patch notes dont tell you everything hell they didn't even mention when they release them bugged capes and still haven't address that problem or even notify the community about it.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 02:32 AM
well I will start with jek ok well..1 your not a gm so I don't care if you hiding so there was no reason for you to reply to it. as ''they'' meant the gms. as for kre you think a few notices=not hiding? any1 can pop up and say A BOMB WENT OFF HIDE GUYS. but then theres the site guess what the main site still says? LOL guess what it says about this game? LOOOL 95% of the posts they do are server downtime thats the ONLY time they try be ''some what active'' and this is after alot of complaining. then theres the lacking information you don't always get posted but I bet you will get all your updates and answers on skype and discord. you know places no1 should go to get information from a gm? yeah them places, you also say they not here to be our friends? what makes you think I'm here to be friends with them? I could careless if they hate me dislike me or cool with me I'm here for the game not to make them into my slaves. if you check any other game forum you'll realize your wrong on many stuff you said only posting when server down is actually nothing. and patch notes dont tell you everything hell they didn't even mention when they release them bugged capes and still haven't address that problem or even notify the community about it.


did you check the first post? they updated. and honestly I get the info from here. I've asked and sometimes they randomly just respond. and foremost i don't have them on discord, I didn't even know what bloody discord was until today and don't use skype and joof responded to you as well so please
calm down
: (
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 02:56 AM
It's not true that I update Discord or Skype more, I always post on the forums before forwarding it to Discord + Facebook.

Most of the time, I don't really have time to go through every post that everyone has made when I'm deleting duped items and talking with the developers.



might as well be the developer too and work with no one but yourself since the GMs aren't the ones who decide, they need permission. and I'm pretty sure the company comes to decisions. as well as these changes don't just happen with a snap of your finger.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

dang you became a butt kisser real fast kre I didn't see theses posts till now. I will skip you cause your not worth anymore replys from me. anyways on to joof that's not my problem. and this is about all the time I been here this was before you even mention dupe so don't use deleting dupes as a excuse because this ''inactive flow'' was happen way before that was put in the public eye. if you hide the fact people was duping since day 1 thats your fault not mine. it also shows the lack of communication yall give us I mean sure you might post here once in a blue moon after servers hit the fan from a dupe. but then what about the other things that wasn't posted here that we needed to know? are you really gonna sit there and try make it seem like only 2 gms in that office working on this game? I highly doubt this. and if that is the case you guys doing it wrong there should be atleast 5 gms to rotate/put on different areas and make the job easier and better. also the site says closed beta still the main site don't even have new download yet[I bet] also don't even let you login with username and pw the posts there is also old. and then theres the bug cape stuff why havent this been brought up? just for the record I don't expect constant replys but I do expect all information to be straight on site/forums. like example soon as that cape bug dropped some gm should posted it asap to not buy them capes because they are bugged.

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 03:06 AM
dang you became a butt kisser real fast kre I didn't see theses posts till now. I will skip you cause your not worth anymore replys from me. anyways on to joof that's not my problem. and this is about all the time I been here this was before you even mention dupe so don't use deleting dupes as a excuse because this ''inactive flow'' was happen way before that was put in the public eye. if you hide the fact people was duping since day 1 thats your fault not mine. it also shows the lack of communication yall give us I mean sure you might post here once in a blue moon after servers hit the fan from a dupe. but then what about the other things that wasn't posted here that we needed to know? are you really gonna sit there and try make it seem like only 2 gms in that office working on this game? I highly doubt this. and if that is the case you guys doing it wrong there should be atleast 5 gms to rotate/put on different areas and make the job easier and better. also the site says closed beta still the main site don't even have new download yet[I bet] also don't even let you login with username and pw the posts there is also old. and then theres the bug cape stuff why havent this been brought up? just for the record I don't expect constant replys but I do expect all information to be straight on site/forums. like example soon as that cape bug dropped some gm should posted it asap to not buy them capes because they are bugged.


dude i didn't even have to read your message because honestly if you were online you would of saw this. I didn't ass kiss to joof I don't want to be a mod or gm.
I just care about this game.
and like this game
and like being active in it.
so don't assume things
because I'm honestly only doing it to help people out.
jesus.
there are two mods Donut ****ing two bro, if you wanna be a mod please ****ing apply and address every damn persons issue in here. please
your concern is the lack of, ok I get you I can agree. so apply or something.
because this is not doing anything.
everyone can complain all they bloody want but they can't or wont, or don't have the authority too do jack
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 03:13 AM
That indeed sounds really good an appealing, but keep in mind that a poll rarely ends with 90% of the participants choosing one option. As we can see in the server wipe poll, the opinions of the players as split evenly. So to entertain the situation that you provided where you are the GM and a poll is introduced, the people would probably choose something like "I want a mix of both" and then state the things they wish to put in from both sides.

This is actually happening now, the devs are changing stuffs on patches according to the threads posted in the luna forums such as stat changes, damage balances, etc. As for fixes to hackers... well, one can only hope that a perfect fix can be introduced somehow.

But seriously, they already stated that they won't be doing any wiping just yet (that sounds really weird:O) so... Yeah.. I'm pretty sure it's the wait that's getting to us. Sorry btw, if I offended you somehow (I'm not really sure if I did but if I did then sorry for that D:)
if we go by the actual poll thats up any vote thats on yes wipe which is on 2 thats more than the no vote. so the yes out weight the no's even if the little yes's was to reborn version and not classic version still a vote yes for wipe. but anyway nope you didn't offend me I just come off as mean I guess or rude. its just how it is.

Jefseid
June 3rd, 2016, 04:37 AM
suspected ? noob!

Jefseid
June 3rd, 2016, 04:42 AM
1.wipe 70% gold 2.create new server!.. 3.compensation x5 exp .........noob!!

FoxyLynn
June 3rd, 2016, 04:59 AM
http://diep.io/

Come play :P

That was fun... till my internet was mean T.T

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b529/konekolynn/T.T_zpskrx4hspl.jpg

Edit: TwilightVixen is my youtube channel name, I am gonna upload the video of me playing Diep.io later. Why? Because it is fun.

Ahmadpirelvgapn
June 3rd, 2016, 05:23 AM
maintance when finished

AllNicksTaken
June 3rd, 2016, 05:38 AM
Feel a little sorry for ppl who spend alot of irl money to get fuwked over like this :/

Deedee1980
June 3rd, 2016, 07:03 AM
No I make my gold from fishing

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 07:04 AM
wtf again 3 day offline?

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 07:29 AM
so if I bought a duped item it will be destroyed??? cause I bought a 4* pet for a lot of gold (50m) now that $ is gone???



Why.
Don't we just go back to the old system.
Where we craft and get enchant scrolls through Dungeon Dates and Bosses
Why don't we change the pet system back to the way it was. or get rid of first strike.
these items take forever to get on your own.
if you made it easier for people to upgrade then dupes wouldn't happen as much since everyone has a chance to actually get these items.
like i don't even understand the enchant system and the enchanting the same item and same level takes hours of grinding to get +1 item and if it's not the same level you enchanted, let's say +2 you have to get another of the +1 item to get it to +2 to even increase that item to +3.
On top of that doing all that takes so much gold and we get such little gold from mops and bosses, bosses should drop more gold it shouldn't be the same amount you get in alker gate, hence why the gold sellers are so bloody obnoxious and clog up alker
like we don't even have protect scrolls we have 30% increase of a protection wtf?
and wtf are this piera stones?
I really don't want to pay to win or be satisfied.
I have to have upgraded things to be able to even fight these freaking bosses and mops because they are stupid strong.
the quest suck at exp so everyone endlessly grinds and gets bored.
I know your patching and fixing stuff. but stop giving them reasons to dupe.
they know they can make mad gold because of the fact barely any players can obtain these items in game.
At least think about it.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

I actually vote for this one.

Paladinech7BG6V
June 3rd, 2016, 07:42 AM
Let the patchers, patch in this case, then see what happens. Besides they are paid to make good decisions I am very sure. In this case, how much do the players really trust the maintenance team to clean out the problem? Its alot of work to go through and look at all the people who were duping and not on luna. Also for people wanting that "previous luna experience" and remember in gpotato with that mad duper in the gate of alker making weps that were over +14 out of new weps? Duping existed back then, but people didn't say anything for a while. I'm not into being a luna hipster and want to see if these guys can make all these features work for a game that has a decent skin.

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 07:45 AM
so if I bought a duped item it will be destroyed??? cause I bought a 4* pet for a lot of gold (50m) now that $ is gone???


Let the patchers, patch in this case, then see what happens. Besides they are paid to make good decisions I am very sure. In this case, how much do the players really trust the maintenance team to clean out the problem? Its alot of work to go through and look at all the people who were duping and not on luna. Also for people wanting that "previous luna experience" and remember in gpotato with that mad duper in the gate of alker making weps that were over +14 out of new weps? Duping existed back then, but people didn't say anything for a while. I'm not into being a luna hipster and want to see if these guys can make all these features work for a game that has a decent skin.

True. well sad to say. and we are actually waiting for the solution.
let's see if they fix it this time. :awsum:

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 07:47 AM
Let the patchers, patch in this case, then see what happens. Besides they are paid to make good decisions I am very sure. In this case, how much do the players really trust the maintenance team to clean out the problem? Its alot of work to go through and look at all the people who were duping and not on luna. Also for people wanting that "previous luna experience" and remember in gpotato with that mad duper in the gate of alker making weps that were over +14 out of new weps? Duping existed back then, but people didn't say anything for a while. I'm not into being a luna hipster and want to see if these guys can make all these features work for a game that has a decent skin.

what I want to know is does private servers have this problem. because I think they don't I think if you even try to do anything like that the game disconnects you. I didn't stick with gpot luna after few months of it going plus. but I can say the features suba have are better than gpot features imo would been better if they brought old luna back with their own features. but yeah you would think the devs would had 90% of bugs fix after all theses years the game been with them in kr.

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 07:50 AM
what I want to know is does private servers have this problem. because I think they don't I think if you even try to do anything like that the game disconnects you. I didn't stick with gpot luna after few months of it going plus. but I can say the features suba have are better than gpot features imo would been better if they brought old luna back with their own features. but yeah you would think the devs would had 90% of bugs fix after all theses years the game been with them in kr.

True. this ISSUE about duping is almost as old as the game.
Have they solved the issue before this would never happen to the other servers.

JwJyuliantL3H5d
June 3rd, 2016, 07:55 AM
It will be more convenient if this kind of announcement shown in the news page too to make it easier to check weather or not the maintenance is done. thanks

CrazyMinMi
June 3rd, 2016, 07:55 AM
there is too much butt kissing GM instead of telling them how much the game is failing right now which many should be doing so they can fix I'm only here for the game yes we have good gms and I love to think of them as friends one day but pls don't butt kiss and let them know how you really feel about game all I'm saying

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 07:58 AM
there is too much butt kissing GM instead of telling them how much the game is failing right now which many should be doing so they can fix I'm only here for the game yes we have good gms and I love to think of them as friends one day but pls don't butt kiss and let them know how you really feel about game all I'm saying

I actually posted a thread about why is this happening.
https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88988

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 08:12 AM
there is too much butt kissing GM instead of telling them how much the game is failing right now which many should be doing so they can fix I'm only here for the game yes we have good gms and I love to think of them as friends one day but pls don't butt kiss and let them know how you really feel about game all I'm saying

true but I don't know about alec I hear way too much bad about him. but yeah butt kissing wont bring a change to forums or game and telling them things will make them try to do better or make a change. like I like joof as a gm but I wont butt kiss him. if you dont like something say something thats why communication can make a big difference.

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 08:14 AM
true but I don't know about alec I hear way too much bad about him. but yeah butt kissing wont bring a change to forums or game and telling them things will make them try to do better or make a change. like I like joof as a gm but I wont butt kiss him. if you dont like something say something thats why communication can make a big difference.

Agree :troll:

CrazyMinMi
June 3rd, 2016, 08:24 AM
true but I don't know about alec I hear way too much bad about him. but yeah butt kissing wont bring a change to forums or game and telling them things will make them try to do better or make a change. like I like joof as a gm but I wont butt kiss him. if you dont like something say something thats why communication can make a big difference.

+1 and alec a good gm he in my guild skype he wants many changes but they can only do so much and theres a plan its the devs mainly so I wouldn't blame the GMs just don't butt kiss they thinking all is well with this luna because of some players but atm it isn't

Erasias
June 3rd, 2016, 08:24 AM
dude. its the second day and still no server 8am here...:'(

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 08:28 AM
It's usually always the devs. I used to be a forum Mod for Aika gPotato. So many times I would see the GMs getting frustrated because the devs are difficult to deal with. I've seen it with so many other games, as well.

RadiantRay
June 3rd, 2016, 08:36 AM
That's why private servers get things done faster, ain't nobody got time to waste waiting on guys who live halfway across the planet xD. If this was PS this issue would've been fixed within the hour of the server going down. Most of the waiting time here is cause we're waiting on the devs to respond. This isn't a problem with this game, it's pretty much all f2p mmos ever lol.

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 08:42 AM
That's why private servers get things done faster, ain't nobody got time to waste waiting on guys who live halfway across the planet xD. If this was PS this issue would've been fixed within the hour of the server going down. Most of the waiting time here is cause we're waiting on the devs to respond. This isn't a problem with this game, it's pretty much all f2p mmos ever lol.
Yet, the private servers never released actual new content. They could only release as far as the old Luna version would let them. In this version, they are actually releasing brand new content. Are you saying the PS have game developers? Because I never saw any brand new content.

RadiantRay
June 3rd, 2016, 08:53 AM
I've been reading through this thread and since I'm going to make a post I might as well post this here. I'd suggest making an imbedded shoutbox on the forum page where everyone can live chat with each other on the forum page. So that if a GM has a quickie post they can post it there and nobody can complain lol


Yet, the private servers never released actual new content. They could only release as far as the old Luna version would let them. In this version, they are actually releasing brand new content. Are you saying the PS have game developers? Because I never saw any brand new content.

I don't play ps for this game but from other servers they're usually ahead on content than the english version and sometimes have their own custom content. Also tbh I was suprised there are still ps for this game considering how old it is and how long the main server been dead xD

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 08:55 AM
Such solution should be patched . we will find a way to dupe and exploit it again until everything is fixed

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 09:02 AM
I've been reading through this thread and since I'm going to make a post I might as well post this here. I'd suggest making an imbedded shoutbox on the forum page where everyone can live chat with each other on the forum page. So that if a GM has a quickie post they can post it there and nobody can complain lol



I don't play ps for this game but from other servers they're usually ahead on content than the english version and sometimes have their own custom content. Also tbh I was suprised there are still ps for this game considering how old it is and how long the main server been dead xD
Well, they did have Discord open to the public. But since so many people complained/trolled, it is now at a limited access. I'm sure the same would happen on a live chat. Though, it is a good idea.

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 09:25 AM
i want play :MAD::MAD::MAD::MAD::MAD::MAD::MAD:

SFGiants
June 3rd, 2016, 09:33 AM
check it if they leave duping in the prices will be lower so mine as well keep it in

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 10:11 AM
more gold from monster and qests:troll:

Hackslot043F108
June 3rd, 2016, 10:34 AM
See you in the patch well check that solution.
Test it... Then we will inform u

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 11:09 AM
That's why private servers get things done faster, ain't nobody got time to waste waiting on guys who live halfway across the planet xD. If this was PS this issue would've been fixed within the hour of the server going down. Most of the waiting time here is cause we're waiting on the devs to respond. This isn't a problem with this game, it's pretty much all f2p mmos ever lol.

I do agree with this, honestly it isn't fair. But I also haven't played a ton of online games so I don't know if this is a common thing but devs on our timezone, would be highly appreciated. I only game on my days off. :(
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 11:10 AM
how much longer :'(

LordGrimx
June 3rd, 2016, 11:18 AM
how much longer :'(

They did say in the first page that the patch will only be sent to them by tomorrow so it would be around June 4th EST morning. So I guess we can just check back again tomorrow xD I'm actually hoping that they would add something else in the patch other than the fix for duping, something like stat balancing or lessening the damage of mobs, anything really :) *Is pumped for the 5x compensation* ;-)

EDIT: In case I confuse anyone, the GM's didn't actually state the compensation amount, I'm just hoping that the compensation would be better than norm xD

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 11:21 AM
I actually vote for this one.


thanks it's just a thought and it made sense to me since all the items that are duped are cash shop or hard to obtain.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 11:43 AM
They did say in the first page that the patch will only be sent to them by tomorrow so it would be around June 4th EST morning. So I guess we can just check back again tomorrow xD I'm actually hoping that they would add something else in the patch other than the fix for duping, something like stat balancing or lessening the damage of mobs, anything really :) *Is pumped for the 5x compensation* ;-)

EDIT: In case I confuse anyone, the GM's didn't actually state the compensation amount, I'm just hoping that the compensation would be better than norm xD

pretty sure they are doing a patch as well as getting rid of the dupes, I just forgot what forum I saw that in though x.x
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Stevenanto06cM8
June 3rd, 2016, 11:49 AM
What time server to recover?

Ariwijaya1R3iJi
June 3rd, 2016, 12:22 PM
What time server to recover?

JayceSpace
June 3rd, 2016, 12:36 PM
what I want to know is does private servers have this problem. because I think they don't I think if you even try to do anything like that the game disconnects you. I didn't stick with gpot luna after few months of it going plus. but I can say the features suba have are better than gpot features imo would been better if they brought old luna back with their own features. but yeah you would think the devs would had 90% of bugs fix after all theses years the game been with them in kr.

Yes private servers have this problem. Why? They use Luna's old code. It was a big issue in gpots Luna too. The market was so saturated though people just adapted. As for the dupers and people hacking, the vast majority are old server owners who are salty they're shout down. Remember the guy a little while back with the buy shop? The devs we don't know how long exactly they had this project, or the studio size actually working on it. We do know they coded the game from the ground up though. Mistakes are made. When they took the project they probably didn't even know how it was being done. Or like before they found a way to fix it but there was another hole they overlooked. The exploiters are abusing that hole. I mean thanks to them the devs may have found it, but they're deliberately trying to make the game crash. I believe a lot of them are the ones wanting a refund and reset... Then they lost nothing but damaging the game. We can all agree, including the GMs that there should have been more time between closed and open beta but the higher ups, higher than we can talk to decided this product needed to be out there. So it was with a cash shop (this was a huge mistake in beta. They should have had a patrion set up or another method of attaining profit until the game was ready for alpha.)

As for others too. A server wipe isn't happening and if you guys were so mad about waiting for your closed beta rewards... Well you're going to be a lot more frustrated waiting for things to balance out then. Cause in reality there are two humans trying their best right now to please thousands of people at once.

A hack shield or game guard won't fix the problem. It may slap a few people's hands, but won't fix the problem. Both programs are incredibly sensitive and for anyone that care enough to learn, easy to break. It relies on people using 3rd party programs to access the game. So duel client, programmable bots, item multiplyers... But what it can't do anything about are physical exploits. The technique used for duping is an exploite not a hack! Macro bots are often untouched too as some can be set to a keyboard or mouse without third party. So two of our biggest issues atm left untouched. Now I know those who don't understand English probably don't get this, or would even read anything... Whatever. I need to go to work though, so I'll let this sit as my contribution to the thread.

Erasias
June 3rd, 2016, 12:37 PM
What time server to recover?
june 4th maybe T_T

SFGiants
June 3rd, 2016, 12:50 PM
this is TOTAL BS. I PAID GOOD MONEY AND EXPECT A BETTER PRODUCT THEN THIS! I WANT A REFUND YOU HEAR ME GM I WANT A REFUND

Tonguefun
June 3rd, 2016, 12:50 PM
Yes private servers have this problem. Why? They use Luna's old code. It was a big issue in gpots Luna too. The market was so saturated though people just adapted. As for the dupers and people hacking, the vast majority are old server owners who are salty they're shout down. Remember the guy a little while back with the buy shop? The devs we don't know how long exactly they had this project, or the studio size actually working on it. We do know they coded the game from the ground up though. Mistakes are made. When they took the project they probably didn't even know how it was being done. Or like before they found a way to fix it but there was another hole they overlooked. The exploiters are abusing that hole. I mean thanks to them the devs may have found it, but they're deliberately trying to make the game crash. I believe a lot of them are the ones wanting a refund and reset... Then they lost nothing but damaging the game. We can all agree, including the GMs that there should have been more time between closed and open beta but the higher ups, higher than we can talk to decided this product needed to be out there. So it was with a cash shop (this was a huge mistake in beta. They should have had a patrion set up or another method of attaining profit until the game was ready for alpha.)

As for others too. A server wipe isn't happening and if you guys were so mad about waiting for your closed beta rewards... Well you're going to be a lot more frustrated waiting for things to balance out then. Cause in reality there are two humans trying their best right now to please thousands of people at once.

A hack shield or game guard won't fix the problem. It may slap a few people's hands, but won't fix the problem. Both programs are incredibly sensitive and for anyone that care enough to learn, easy to break. It relies on people using 3rd party programs to access the game. So duel client, programmable bots, item multiplyers... But what it can't do anything about are physical exploits. The technique used for duping is an exploite not a hack! Macro bots are often untouched too as some can be set to a keyboard or mouse without third party. So two of our biggest issues atm left untouched. Now I know those who don't understand English probably don't get this, or would even read anything... Whatever. I need to go to work though, so I'll let this sit as my contribution to the thread.

Did you intentionally go into a rant because after reading his post and yours he mentioned nothing about the latter half of what was said. Granted it was correct but addressing him with that overload of already known info kinda overboard. Thanks for your insight though.

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 12:57 PM
4 june wtf

JayceSpace
June 3rd, 2016, 01:03 PM
Did you intentionally go into a rant because after reading his post and yours he mentioned nothing about the latter half of what was said. Granted it was correct but addressing him with that overload of already known info kinda overboard. Thanks for your insight though.

It's addressing many other threads he's commented on too. I'm on mobile and it's a pain to quote. It's also in regards to a good lot of the community at the moment. I didn't intend on it being so long though.

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 3rd, 2016, 01:06 PM
this is TOTAL BS. I PAID GOOD MONEY AND EXPECT A BETTER PRODUCT THEN THIS! I WANT A REFUND YOU HEAR ME GM I WANT A REFUND

*slides a plate of cheese over to you* want some?

Dakaroth
June 3rd, 2016, 01:08 PM
*slides a plate of cheese over to you* want some?

-Casually reaches out, and takes the plate of cheese- Thank you.

Joof
June 3rd, 2016, 01:15 PM
Currently, we are trying to permanently address the situation rather than put workarounds that may get bypassed in the future.

We apologize for the wait and we thank you for your patience.

Azure13260i3yDT
June 3rd, 2016, 01:17 PM
We all blame the dupers and fake gold sellers. But im sure those people will get karma. Karma strikes in different ways.

Tonguefun
June 3rd, 2016, 01:18 PM
i just noticed joof's location says chatting with eyasoft.

AllNicksTaken
June 3rd, 2016, 02:34 PM
Tonguefun eaglz eyez >:V !

Krechar
June 3rd, 2016, 02:36 PM
That's good they are trying to fix this and prevent it from happening again.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 02:41 PM
how much longer :'(

DedOctopus
June 3rd, 2016, 02:56 PM
Due to the recent exploits in Luna Reborn, the servers will be down until Monday. During the downtime we are doing tests to prevent further exploits from happening, and removing items gained via the exploits.
As previously said, the Servers are expected to go up Monday at noon. Though this date and time may be adjusted earlier or later depending on further findings.
Sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.:ehh:

SFGiants
June 3rd, 2016, 03:06 PM
really......I mean really? ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?!?!?! ARE YOU TRYING TO TROLL.....REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 03:20 PM
how long gm ???

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 03:23 PM
I hope that will be something more than the 5x exp

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 03:23 PM
Due to the recent exploits in Luna Reborn, the servers will be down until Monday. During the downtime we are doing tests to prevent further exploits from happening, and removing items gained via the exploits.
As previously said, the Servers are expected to go up Monday at noon. Though this date and time may be adjusted earlier or later depending on further findings.
Sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.:ehh:

so Today is Friday tomorrow is Saturday and then its Sunday then 15H later its Sunday Noon so its 21+24+15 = 60 hours :confused:

BY THE WAY GM IF THIS GUY IS TROLLING PLZ BAN HIM FROM THE FORUMS FOR AT-LEAST A WEEK

Fujomiko25
June 3rd, 2016, 03:27 PM
June 3rd, 2016 UPDATE: Due to the recent exploits in Luna Reborn, the servers will be down until Monday. During the downtime we are doing tests to prevent further exploits from happening, and removing items gained via the exploits.
As previously said, the Servers are expected to go up Monday at noon. Though this date and time may be adjusted earlier or later depending on further findings.

We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused


Thank you GM Joof for the updates. You're the best GM.
I do hope the dev add one more pve channel and lessen the damage taken from monsters and increase the exp and gold from quest so that its worth doing the quest.

DedOctopus
June 3rd, 2016, 03:43 PM
Psh, Facebook exist for a reason.

CrazyMinMi
June 3rd, 2016, 04:02 PM
Currently, we are trying to permanently address the situation rather than put workarounds that may get bypassed in the future.

We apologize for the wait and we thank you for your patience. no problem I'm pretty sure if its a permanent fix players done mind waiting 3 more days keep up the good work

Zakurno
June 3rd, 2016, 04:04 PM
Wew....By then i would lose my farm...pls compensate fir the loss..:'(

SFGiants
June 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
so I was surfing around other games of Suba Gaming and found something interesting. A lot of the people you reply to negative post on here are on other forum boards from other games. I wont name names just yet but you know who they are. The same people will replay to this post and try to defend Suba any which way they can. This thread will probably be deleted. I also found very few post on other games with recent activity. Its like all the Suba game employees are on vacation or maybe they had some recent firings for the poor service I do not know but these are my speculations. I'm not saying any of this is true but pure speculation. before you go dumping any more money into Luna do your research first to see what you are getting.....and be safe everyone

AbelRmedinUnHO4
June 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
Server off???

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 04:41 PM
Server off???
Yes. The server will be off until noon Monday; so approximately 2 days, and 19 hours.

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
OK guys i made a to do list till the servers are down

https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88994

FatalDenial
June 3rd, 2016, 05:04 PM
not gonna happen with your stupid refund crap why bescause there fixing the dupe and took the server down till monday wow lol gl with that

KaizerD
June 3rd, 2016, 05:11 PM
Definitely looking forward to the final fix for this then c:

SupremeLeader
June 3rd, 2016, 05:17 PM
Greetings, this is your almighty Supreme Leader speaking.

I got to hand it to the community here hahaa, so many people asking when the servers are getting back up, everyone seems suprised that the servers are down etc. It's just too funny. You know, when you try to log on to the game, it asks you to check out the forum for information about the update, and it also informs you that the servers are currently offline. So, there's your answers to the godly question "Is the servers down?!?!?!", yes, yes they are, consider yourself informed already before you ask that question hahaa. The constant asking of when the servers will be up again? Well, as I said earlier, when trying to sign into the game it asks you to check for information reguarding the update on the forums. The very first post in this thread states that the servers won't be up before monday. It doesn't necesserly say it'll be back up on monday, but certainly not before. So there's the answer to that question. Geeezzz... As your Supreme Leader I order you guys to follow clear instrucations, make observations and analyze the situation... If every single one asks "When will the servers be back up?!?" The servers will never get back up as all of the GMs' time will be spent repeating the same answer to the same question.

End of message.

Anthemica
June 3rd, 2016, 05:29 PM
Greetings, this is your almighty Supreme Leader speaking.

I got to hand it to the community here hahaa, so many people asking when the servers are getting back up, everyone seems suprised that the servers are down etc. It's just too funny. You know, when you try to log on to the game, it asks you to check out the forum for information about the update, and it also informs you that the servers are currently offline. So, there's your answers to the godly question "Is the servers down?!?!?!", yes, yes they are, consider yourself informed already before you ask that question hahaa. The constant asking of when the servers will be up again? Well, as I said earlier, when trying to sign into the game it asks you to check for information reguarding the update on the forums. The very first post in this thread states that the servers won't be up before monday. It doesn't necesserly say it'll be back up on monday, but certainly not before. So there's the answer to that question. Geeezzz... As your Supreme Leader I order you guys to follow clear instrucations, make observations and analyze the situation... If every single one asks "When will the servers be back up?!?" The servers will never get back up as all of the GMs' time will be spent repeating the same answer to the same question.

End of message.
What would we do without you, Seb?

KaizerD
June 3rd, 2016, 05:31 PM
Greetings, this is your almighty Supreme Leader speaking.

I got to hand it to the community here hahaa, so many people asking when the servers are getting back up, everyone seems suprised that the servers are down etc. It's just too funny. You know, when you try to log on to the game, it asks you to check out the forum for information about the update, and it also informs you that the servers are currently offline. So, there's your answers to the godly question "Is the servers down?!?!?!", yes, yes they are, consider yourself informed already before you ask that question hahaa. The constant asking of when the servers will be up again? Well, as I said earlier, when trying to sign into the game it asks you to check for information reguarding the update on the forums. The very first post in this thread states that the servers won't be up before monday. It doesn't necesserly say it'll be back up on monday, but certainly not before. So there's the answer to that question. Geeezzz... As your Supreme Leader I order you guys to follow clear instrucations, make observations and analyze the situation... If every single one asks "When will the servers be back up?!?" The servers will never get back up as all of the GMs' time will be spent repeating the same answer to the same question.

End of message.

Sir, yes, SIR! *Salutes*
:P Yeah there is a lot of excessive questioning isn't there ;; People try logging in, fails. Come here
*reads post that server is down and then immediately asks if server is up*

Hopefully Now that the post is updated people will take notice and -hopefully- not be so confused by it c:

Paladinech7BG6V
June 3rd, 2016, 05:56 PM
I hope they add both the armor sets AND accessory sets this weekend too on top of removing the duper infestation. Keeping the gold deleted also gives them ability to remove the evil gold sink that was going on before the servers shut down. Was doing a calculation of per hour gold to find that I was earning more as a level 45 char than a level 62 char D:. Was killing even faster and probably more mobs than the lowbie character.

SupremeLeader
June 3rd, 2016, 05:56 PM
What would we do without you, Seb?

Indeed, without my supreme guidance you'd surely perish. However, you're in safe hands. I'm here to guide you, my people!

End of message.

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 06:18 PM
guys there are some item in the game that have a time limited such as 15days Mounts 7 days costume and certain BUffs Such as Exp buffs
now my question is since the servers are down is the timer on these items still active or is it paused till the servers come back up ?

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 06:32 PM
active i lost 30% drop rate

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 3rd, 2016, 06:38 PM
guys there are some item in the game that have a time limited such as 15days Mounts 7 days costume and certain BUffs Such as Exp buffs
now my question is since the servers are down is the timer on these items still active or is it paused till the servers come back up ?


active i lost 30% drop rate


i'm actually not quite sure, infact I had a few things still left from earlier on (the white horse mount, and a couple stat boosts) that even after the server went down, I still had them at the same points in which the server had crashed. so it might stay the same, or they might continue to count down, who knows.

FatalDenial
June 3rd, 2016, 07:10 PM
i think its you need be in game . because i had my exp scrolls at 250 mins loged off for the day and still had them the next day

IAmerican
June 3rd, 2016, 07:14 PM
Hold the Door...Hold the Door..Hold the Door... Hold.. Door.. Hodor.. Hodor.. Hodor.


-Games of Thrones

KaizerD
June 3rd, 2016, 07:28 PM
It depends on the items.
If they are like mounts or items that needed to be unsealed for the timer to work, yes the timer is still running i believe.
20% 1 day scrolls timer still runs
All other exp scrolls 6 hours and under pause when you are not logged in.

Joermungandr
June 3rd, 2016, 07:52 PM
I believe that the 6 hrs scrolls also do run out while you are not logged in, I got the feeling that this was a change after the last scheduled mt

Jarkozon
June 3rd, 2016, 07:56 PM
like so on the server will be offline to people fleeing,pls fast fix problems.

Dakaroth
June 3rd, 2016, 08:02 PM
I believe that the 6 hrs scrolls also do run out while you are not logged in, I got the feeling that this was a change after the last scheduled mt

Scrolls dont run out while offline. But will when online. So those who keep getting the maint while in the middle of a grind with scrolls, then have to find a group again when back online. Which as a healer is hard to do, and you waste alot of that time doing so.

How many days on costumes, and free teleports have been wasted now? about 5 days id say... Waste of money as far as costume is concerned.

FatalDenial
June 3rd, 2016, 08:07 PM
no i ran the 6 hrs 50% ones and still had it the next day... when logged back in

Dakaroth
June 3rd, 2016, 08:31 PM
Hahaha this review though.

http://www.mmobomb.com/review/luna-online-reborn#comments

The way this games going isnt only infuencing current players, but people that 'may' have considered even trying it.

Ariwijaya1R3iJi
June 3rd, 2016, 09:01 PM
GM excuse me, when the server is active again?

Shehroz
June 3rd, 2016, 10:11 PM
GM excuse me, when the server is active again?
If you read the very first post of this thread the very first One it says in Bold letters MONDAY Noon :COOL:

LastDonut
June 3rd, 2016, 10:22 PM
Yes private servers have this problem. Why? They use Luna's old code. It was a big issue in gpots Luna too. The market was so saturated though people just adapted. As for the dupers and people hacking, the vast majority are old server owners who are salty they're shout down. Remember the guy a little while back with the buy shop? The devs we don't know how long exactly they had this project, or the studio size actually working on it. We do know they coded the game from the ground up though. Mistakes are made. When they took the project they probably didn't even know how it was being done. Or like before they found a way to fix it but there was another hole they overlooked. The exploiters are abusing that hole. I mean thanks to them the devs may have found it, but they're deliberately trying to make the game crash. I believe a lot of them are the ones wanting a refund and reset... Then they lost nothing but damaging the game. We can all agree, including the GMs that there should have been more time between closed and open beta but the higher ups, higher than we can talk to decided this product needed to be out there. So it was with a cash shop (this was a huge mistake in beta. They should have had a patrion set up or another method of attaining profit until the game was ready for alpha.)

As for others too. A server wipe isn't happening and if you guys were so mad about waiting for your closed beta rewards... Well you're going to be a lot more frustrated waiting for things to balance out then. Cause in reality there are two humans trying their best right now to please thousands of people at once.

A hack shield or game guard won't fix the problem. It may slap a few people's hands, but won't fix the problem. Both programs are incredibly sensitive and for anyone that care enough to learn, easy to break. It relies on people using 3rd party programs to access the game. So duel client, programmable bots, item multiplyers... But what it can't do anything about are physical exploits. The technique used for duping is an exploite not a hack! Macro bots are often untouched too as some can be set to a keyboard or mouse without third party. So two of our biggest issues atm left untouched. Now I know those who don't understand English probably don't get this, or would even read anything... Whatever. I need to go to work though, so I'll let this sit as my contribution to the thread.

Addressing me here in 1 post? sound like a stalker if I go by the reply you gave tongue. for 1 the game needs protection regardless if it stop the dupe or not thats not the point. yeah we all know people doing dupe without a 3rd party program thats still not the point. protection is still a good thing to have regardless. server wipe is still in consideration. ''you guys mad about closed beta rewards'' who was mad about this? don't put me in the pile with your buddies. you can keep thinking it's only 2 people. what does english got to do with anything you just wrote? whats the point moaning the same song others moaned? your late on the things you speaking on so if this your way of ''attacking'' me try again. and direct your rubbish to someone else. I ask 1 thing and it won't be answered without proof.

and just for the record I never bother mention protection till you moan about it. I could careless now days if they add 1 or not but if I had a choice I would say to get it.

CrazyMinMi
June 3rd, 2016, 10:29 PM
Hahaha this review though.

http://www.mmobomb.com/review/luna-online-reborn#comments

The way this games going isnt only infuencing current players, but people that 'may' have considered even trying it.

3.65 out of 5 only 5 people has voted

CrazyMinMi
June 3rd, 2016, 10:31 PM
Greetings, this is your almighty Supreme Leader speaking.

I got to hand it to the community here hahaa, so many people asking when the servers are getting back up, everyone seems suprised that the servers are down etc. It's just too funny. You know, when you try to log on to the game, it asks you to check out the forum for information about the update, and it also informs you that the servers are currently offline. So, there's your answers to the godly question "Is the servers down?!?!?!", yes, yes they are, consider yourself informed already before you ask that question hahaa. The constant asking of when the servers will be up again? Well, as I said earlier, when trying to sign into the game it asks you to check for information reguarding the update on the forums. The very first post in this thread states that the servers won't be up before monday. It doesn't necesserly say it'll be back up on monday, but certainly not before. So there's the answer to that question. Geeezzz... As your Supreme Leader I order you guys to follow clear instrucations, make observations and analyze the situation... If every single one asks "When will the servers be back up?!?" The servers will never get back up as all of the GMs' time will be spent repeating the same answer to the same question.

End of message. thank you my lord :O

Dakaroth
June 3rd, 2016, 11:39 PM
3.65 out of 5 only 5 people has voted

I'm not talking about the score, I'm talking about the comment made. The comment, right on the spot.
Besides, I said 'this' review though, not 'these' reviews :)

LordGrimx
June 3rd, 2016, 11:57 PM
Addressing me here in 1 post? sound like a stalker if I go by the reply you gave tongue. for 1 the game needs protection regardless if it stop the dupe or not thats not the point. yeah we all know people doing dupe without a 3rd party program thats still not the point. protection is still a good thing to have regardless. server wipe is still in consideration. ''you guys mad about closed beta rewards'' who was mad about this? don't put me in the pile with your buddies. you can keep thinking it's only 2 people. what does english got to do with anything you just wrote? whats the point moaning the same song others moaned? your late on the things you speaking on so if this your way of ''attacking'' me try again. and direct your rubbish to someone else. I ask 1 thing and it won't be answered without proof.

and just for the record I never bother mention protection till you moan about it. I could careless now days if they add 1 or not but if I had a choice I would say to get it.

May I know where I can find the thread where the GM's stated that they were considering a server wipe? I would like to read the discussion related to this and the stand of the GM's as I wasn't aware that they stated that they were already considering it.

1roha
June 4th, 2016, 12:05 AM
Server wipe should be the last resort of technical issue; not community problem.

Anthemica
June 4th, 2016, 12:12 AM
May I know where I can find the thread where the GM's stated that they were considering a server wipe? I would like to read the discussion related to this and the stand of the GM's as I wasn't aware that they stated that they were already considering it.
They are not considering it. Though, that does not mean it will never happen. No one can predict the future.

Joof simply stated, "At this moment in time, there will NOT be a wipe. I'm currently deleting duped items and going through as much as I can." https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88942&page=12

RockleesmiOFWt6
June 4th, 2016, 03:37 AM
when will servers be back up? they've been down for over a day -.-

Anthemica
June 4th, 2016, 03:43 AM
when will servers be back up? they've been down for over a day -.-
Have you not seen the numerous posts in this thread? The estimated time has been mentioned exactly 5 times in this thread. Joof even updated his first post. The servers will be back up on Monday at noon EST. The time could be reduced or lengthened.

Jarkozon
June 4th, 2016, 03:45 AM
Who will pay me for the losers as time and current accounts will restart

1roha
June 4th, 2016, 03:48 AM
Requesting thread lock for preventing further same question. Discussing dupe etc can go to other thread.

"June 3rd, 2016 UPDATE: Due to the recent exploits in Luna Reborn, the servers will be down until Monday. During the downtime we are doing tests to prevent further exploits from happening, and removing items gained via the exploits. As previously said, the Servers are expected to go up Monday at noon. Though this date and time may be adjusted earlier or later depending on further findings. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused."

Jarkozon
June 4th, 2016, 03:53 AM
why reactivated game and now they want to get rid of players, all the time server offline

Anthemica
June 4th, 2016, 04:35 AM
why reactivated game and now they want to get rid of players, all the time server offline
Do you actually think they want to get rid of players? Do you even know why they keep downing the server? They're trying to fix the exploit issue, because if they don't, they truly will lose players. No one wants to play a game that is full of cheaters. No one wants to play a game where you can never keep up with people because they always get ahead by playing unfairly.

Jarkozon
June 4th, 2016, 04:48 AM
Do you actually think they want to get rid of players? Do you even know why they keep downing the server? They're trying to fix the exploit issue, because if they don't, they truly will lose players. No one wants to play a game that is full of cheaters. No one wants to play a game where you can never keep up with people because they always get ahead by playing unfairly.

They had the time as was the closed beta now wants to play

Rapzx0Y3DhE362c
June 4th, 2016, 04:50 AM
I really dont care how long they fix it just make sure no one can dupe anymore or bot more power Luna Reborn think positive...

Anthemica
June 4th, 2016, 05:00 AM
They had the time as was the closed beta now wants to play
No, they didn't have the time. The people in charge of Suba Games made them open the game too early.

JayceSpace
June 4th, 2016, 09:17 AM
No, they didn't have the time. The people in charge of Suba Games made them open the game too early.

We're also still by definition in beta. Open beta. But beta. There will be maintainace, updates and flaws. As said even the GMs agree that it was released too early between. That it was released incorrectly. But the higherups wanted their product out and so there it was

CasualBoy
June 4th, 2016, 12:11 PM
Next Time pls. From beginn of the Holyday too the end of the Holyday. Thank you :) :lol::lol::lol::gusta:

CAKings
June 4th, 2016, 04:52 PM
Unless you actually fix something, its only gonna get worse, and whenever they do ''fix'' something, it doesn't get better.

KaizerD
June 4th, 2016, 05:08 PM
I think people are starting to not realize that they put the server down for this long period of time so they can do the coding and fix the exploits that are going on.
I admit they were not doing actual fixes until now but the fact is they are now. None of these previous "fixes" were meant to be permanent. Obviously turning off item splitting and trading entirely were not supposed to be "the fix" and i think everyone can agree to that if they think about it.

Shehroz
June 4th, 2016, 05:18 PM
currently its 5:15 pm in the USA (saterday )
Time remaining = 9-hours till Sunday - 24 hours till Monday - And 12 hours Till Monday Noon
total = 45 hours :'(

FatalDenial
June 4th, 2016, 05:28 PM
im actully glad to see there fixing it as it comes to their attention ... some devs on games dont even bother

IvanaDragmj84GH
June 4th, 2016, 06:07 PM
Unless you actually fix something, its only gonna get worse, and whenever they do ''fix'' something, it doesn't get better.


what do you think they are doing now? it's taking so long because they are trying to put in a permanent solution.

Trunks2k94U2SB0
June 5th, 2016, 01:39 AM
S/O to the GMs for taking in the population's (us) suggestions and problems etc. And the Devs for listening to the GMs about our problems and actually doing something about it. I don't mind the wait if it will make the game better for everyone. Sometimes to taste that good game victory, you gotta wait. :XD:

Hackslot043F108
June 5th, 2016, 03:25 AM
I think people are starting to not realize that they put the server down for this long period of time so they can do the coding and fix the exploits that are going on.
I admit they were not doing actual fixes until now but the fact is they are now. None of these previous "fixes" were meant to be permanent. Obviously turning off item splitting and trading entirely were not supposed to be "the fix" and i think everyone can agree to that if they think about it.

Well I really do hope they fix it this time. Because me and my team will test the so called "FIX" and well dupe again.
If it's fixed then we'll play fair.
If not then there would be another maintenance.:COOL:

Toujours
June 5th, 2016, 04:03 AM
Harvesting salt.

Jarkozon
June 5th, 2016, 04:40 AM
you can see the weak security is of this game and I doubt he will be better
Play now the old versions and there is no cheaters and botters.
I regret that it has released real money on the game.
awaits you reset accounts

FatalDenial
June 5th, 2016, 05:40 AM
Well I really do hope they fix it this time. Because me and my team will test the so called "FIX" and well dupe again.
If it's fixed then we'll play fair.
If not then there would be another maintenance.:COOL:

LOL so you dupe lol good to know cant even play without cheating

Hackslot043F108
June 5th, 2016, 05:42 AM
LOL so you dupe lol good to know cant even play without cheating

Meh, we merely playing just logging in, testing and duping. just so the GM's can be notified that there are still cheats in the game.

CrazyMinMi
June 5th, 2016, 05:48 AM
Lol how do we know your the real hacker/duper and not a troll. Anybody can make a account name it hacker something doesn't mean thier the hacker just somebody causing trouble.

FatalDenial
June 5th, 2016, 05:54 AM
lol prob a troll why tell everyone you dupe, just to be banned lol i doubt your that dumb must be trolling not wise if gm checks up on you

Anthemica
June 5th, 2016, 06:55 AM
Well I really do hope they fix it this time. Because me and my team will test the so called "FIX" and well dupe again.
If it's fixed then we'll play fair.
If not then there would be another maintenance.:COOL:
So, what you're saying is that if the problem isn't fixed, you're going to continue duping? That's like saying if a bank vault were open, you would steal the cash because it's the bank's fault. You look ignorant bragging because making threats is ban worthy.

LastDonut
June 5th, 2016, 08:50 AM
it's funny that people here think he cares about being banned. something I doubt they'll do just cause he said what he said. just how anyone can confess to a murder but they not gonna auto believe you they will check it out and see if it's true first.

Gravvios
June 5th, 2016, 10:53 AM
i hope we can see Luna reborn on steam this month , have VAC security and some game guard , i heard item in luna "golden navigation" usually used for dupers

Apasajabol2f518
June 5th, 2016, 11:33 AM
wat time MT over??? still mT?

DJRen
June 5th, 2016, 11:44 AM
wat time MT over??? still mT?


...the Servers are expected to go up Monday at noon. Though this date and time may be adjusted earlier or later depending on further findings.

If you can't read, it says Monday at noon (server time).

Krechar
June 5th, 2016, 01:07 PM
I think people are starting to not realize that they put the server down for this long period of time so they can do the coding and fix the exploits that are going on.
I admit they were not doing actual fixes until now but the fact is they are now. None of these previous "fixes" were meant to be permanent. Obviously turning off item splitting and trading entirely were not supposed to be "the fix" and i think everyone can agree to that if they think about it.

the trading was only temp disable anyway and I'm happy they are and found perm fixes for this and if people READ and stop asking when servers are up its Monday NOON,
maybe early maybe later but its still Monday.
http://i.imgur.com/DqsCjlE.gif (https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=88931)

SwordGligh2B3Pv
June 5th, 2016, 01:13 PM
now sunday 5 june 12:14 EST.

SFGiants
June 5th, 2016, 02:10 PM
I accidently pooped myself

Shehroz
June 5th, 2016, 02:49 PM
Reasons why luna should not launch on steam

https://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=89039&p=860553#post860553

sorry i just had to make this thread

FatalDenial
June 5th, 2016, 05:04 PM
now sunday 5 june 12:14 EST.


just another day .. you can wait :)

Shehroz
June 5th, 2016, 05:35 PM
its suday 5:30 pm in usa time till monday noon 18.5 hours :)

M1tis
June 5th, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jesus I went on vacation and come back to this @_@

CAKings
June 5th, 2016, 06:35 PM
After Reading the whole thread, I honestly don't know whats gonna happen to this game. Not saying anythin' but its ruined unless they fix the Dupers, Cheaters, AFKers, ect. But we'll see how it turns out y'know?

Shehroz
June 5th, 2016, 06:49 PM
i dont really mind afk fishing and afk booths t