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    Default Pierce weapons!

    So I got really bored and whipped out my calculator and did some math.

    I calculated a few things, and I am hoping to see some changes in game xD



    DPS Calculation!

    ((((Damage Min + Damage Max)/2) * 3.7) * (100 - (Enemy Def - Total Pierce)) * (Total Prob - Enemy Evasion) * (Number of missiles fired)) / Re-attack time = ~Average DPS

    Using this calculation I input a few constants just for calculation's sake.

    Enemy def = 160%
    Enemy Eva = 50%

    I used these numbers because MG ragings + Self buff + double godcharm = 50% eva
    And I figure 160% def seems pretty fair as far as the playerbase goes. It's probably pretty high, but after all, we do want to kill those few who do have it or higher.

    For anyone wondering, the 3.7 I put in at the front is 340 attack + ragings + buffs. So with fixes you could get higher, but let's just keep it simple

    Assuming you have no pierce/prob on your armor
    Assuming you have 30% pierce fixes
    Assuming you have e10 pierce e2 hyperpierce
    Always level 101 weapons

    Enril ~ 950dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 871dps
    Holy Triton/Kerthion ~ 965dps
    Invading Force ~ 948dps


    Assuming all the same stats but this time with Orobas of Orobas on your armor

    Enril ~ 1316dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 1177dps
    Holy Triton/Kerthion ~ 1233dps
    Invading Force ~ 1156dps


    This time assuming Cthulu of Cthulu on your armor

    Enril ~ 1242dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 1140dps
    Holy Triton/Kerthion ~ 1256dps
    Invading Force ~ 1389dps



    TL/DR Enrils are NOT the best pierce weapon. Just because I am sick of all the people saying Enril or gtfo.


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    As I said, u suck

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    What, from your calculations the IF actually is good for pierce.

    Trust me, IFs suck hardcoremajorballs for pierce, because of lack of base damage.
    Last edited by IronlEye; May 30th, 2013 at 01:35 PM.
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    The thing you are not factoring in here Turk is the hit frequency.
    If you can hit 1 missile of 4 for 1K damage, or you can hit 4 missiles in 8 for 300, what is better?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAid View Post
    The thing you are not factoring in here Turk is the hit frequency.
    If you can hit 1 missile of 4 for 1K damage, or you can hit 4 missiles in 8 for 300, what is better?
    Could you do thesame with the event lvl 50 pumkin arrows ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Involution View Post
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    It's almost... suspicious...

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    893dps
    1160dps
    1167dps

    Color coded to previously used gear stats

    You're welcome.
    Last edited by RageAid; May 30th, 2013 at 03:57 PM.


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    Funny, thought that would be the best for pierce weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Involution View Post
    In the last month, IronlEye has absolutely no hack logs on his account, for what that's worth. Most players get even a few false positives.

    It's almost... suspicious...

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    If you'd like I can do all the math using 160 def and 40 eva... That's a what like 90% of people have, 50eva is ONLY if they have a god charm...

    Give me any stats you want, I'm bored


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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAid View Post
    If you'd like I can do all the math using 160 def and 40 eva... That's a what like 90% of people have, 50eva is ONLY if they have a god charm...

    Give me any stats you want, I'm bored
    Try e12 pierce with 15% pierce fix and let's say 17~% prob and 15~% minmax fix on all of these weapons. Thats the normal "MG" killer weapon ppl use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Involution View Post
    In the last month, IronlEye has absolutely no hack logs on his account, for what that's worth. Most players get even a few false positives.

    It's almost... suspicious...

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    Enemy: 160% def 40% evasion
    Self: 58 pierce weapon 340 attack

    No fixes:

    Enril ~ 1133dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 1024dps
    HolyTriton/Kerthion ~ 1099dps
    Invading Force ~ 1063dps
    Pumpkin Arrow ~ 1026dps


    20% prob fixes

    Enril ~ 1499dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 1330dps
    HolyTriton/Kerthion ~ 1340dps
    Invading Force ~ 1156dps
    Pumpkin Arrow ~ 1293dps


    10% pierce 20mm

    Enril ~ 1481dps
    Erida/Hades ~ 1340dps
    HolyTriton/Kerthion ~ 1431dps
    Invading Force ~ 1389dps
    Pumpkin Arrow ~ 1341dps



    So in theory Enril's are better against the standard player. However I find it's always best to gear towards your greatest enemy than anything else.


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