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    Default Skill developement guide

    Ok since I dont want to only critisize others but actually offer some insight in my Ata experience, here my skill developement guide for a working Ata.

    lvls. 10-20

    Shield Strike 1
    Farina 1
    Throwing Mastery 4
    Bigger Spear 0

    Reasoning:
    Shield Strike is up to ice caves one of the most usefull skills. Train it and learn to controll groups of monsters and enemies in PVP! Most usefull at 1 because higher lvls only raise damage not stun time and damage is near to nothing.
    Farina is very usefull against high defense monsters (King Hopy when you first enter dun3 for example or monsters in lvl 80 areas and up) and in PVP!
    Leave it at 1 because its already good at 1, higher lvls dont give higher speed boost and youll want to spam it alot.

    Maxing out Throwing Mastery is in my opinion more important than having rank-up quest at 20 thats why I advise against investing into Bigger Spear at 18 or 20, infact you wont need an attack skill untill you fight against Headcutters and Figons anyway and for those others are more suited.

    lvls. 20 - 32:
    Shield Strike 1
    Farina 1
    Throwing Mastery 9
    Bigger Spear 1

    Reasoning:
    Before you have Ring Armor at 35 you cant really do much against Headcutters in Oasis so youll hunt in Forgotten Land (d2) anyway. No monster there which you have to dispose fast except skele archers and those fall fast anyway.
    You need Rank-Up quest before you go to Oasis because of Twisted Javelin.

    lvl: 34-36
    Rank-Up Quest
    Windy 1
    Twist Javelin 1

    Reasoning:
    First Rank-Up quest for Morions is really annoying and at 36 you'll have less stress with it. At 36 you also will start to train and hunt in Oasis (d1) where you'll find Headcutters. For those Twist Javelin is a really nice attack skill because they are demons (so are Figons, Slaughters and Illusion Knights later)

    lvls 38-40:
    Throwing Mastery 10 Tier 1 Skills complete
    Windy 1
    Twist Javelin 1
    Soul Sucker 1
    Fire Javelin 1 Tier 2 skills complete

    lvls 40-50:
    Start (but do not complete!) second Rank-Up Quest.

    Reasoning:
    OK heres why: Winged Javelin sux and Anaconda rox! Winged has no damage specc and your Anaconda (Quest Weapon) not only has speed 8 and nice damage but also gives you HP boost. You can also keep the quest ring!
    Plus you won't really need Tier 3 skills untill you can hunt Dun3 or Forbidden (d4) anyway (ToV at low lvls aint giving much and you wont get Storm before 50 anyway.
    So in this lvl-range no new skills, just age your anaconda to 3 and dont visit skillmaster untill you're 50, so train train train in d1 and dun1 .
    Fire Javelin is great against Webs (Mutants) BTW!

    Now before you hit 50 get yourself a nice Holy Javelin and murky mix it!
    Thiw will be your main weapon untill you get a sweet Wyvern Javelin (which you should also murky mix!)
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    lvl 50:
    Second Rank-up quest complete
    Split Javelin 1
    Triumph of Valhalla (ToV) 2
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin (Storm) 1

    Reasoning:
    All those skills at once at lvl 50, so plan your budget!
    Your whole lvl 50 and more will be filled with trainning Storm, Split and Lightning jav
    And you can enter Dun2 where you'll find Mummies (undead)
    Lightning javelin is great against undead and good enough at lvl 1
    Split Javelin is great even though it has a short delay even at 100%.
    Try Hit and Run tactics with it, you'll see!
    Storm Javelin is our only spammable AoE skill so learn to use it, especially since your ata will throw twice without a chance to pot midway...
    ToV is just awesome and later become even more awesomer! 2nd Best Buff ingame IMHO!

    lvls. 52-58 With Cave Quest at 55
    Split Javelin 1
    Triumph of Valhalla (ToV) 7
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin (Storm) 1

    Reasoning:
    Now some atas prefer investing into storm first before boosting ToV.
    This only works IMO if you invested into spirit enough to afford the higher mp costs for spamming it. In my experience Storm at 1 is already nice for some bigger mobs in dun2 or d4 and you'll get more effect from a 7 ToV (also you're more welcome in parties )

    lvl 60
    Third Tank-Up Quest
    Split Javelin 1
    Triumph of Valhalla 8
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin 1

    Hall of Valhalla (HoV) 1

    Reasoning:
    Hall of Valhalla is the best buff in PT IMHO! Even at 1 it is! You may have to recast is more often than ToV but when in party all in reach get affected by ToV at your current lvl (chained) and you get even some small evade chance (others halved but hey! ).

    lvls 62-70: With Friendship with Michael Quest
    Split Javelin 1
    Triumph of Valhalla 10
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin 5

    Hall of Valhalla (HoV) 3
    Extreme Rage (rage) 1
    Frost Javelin (frost) 1
    Vengeance (ven) 1

    Reasoning:
    Maxing Tov is a given. After that you'll need storm at a high lvl, also a given.
    Rage has a horrendous delay... but its an AoE attack and you can mix it with storm.
    Frost Javelin is actually a nice buff. Added Ice damage (min+20 max+30 at lvl 1) and slows down target! Use it in PVP in combination with Shield Strike and your enemies will learn to stay away from atas out of sheer annoyance Especially if you make a low spirit build you will need this skill!
    Vengeance is our best Attack Skill. You can spam it and no pause between the 2 throws. BUT its a huge mana burn, so its a problem for low spirit builds.
    BTW: Fire javelin is your friend against KH and Stone Giant and Web!
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    lvls 62-70: With Friendship with Michael Quest
    Split Javelin 1
    Triumph of Valhalla 10
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin 5

    Hall of Valhalla (HoV) 3
    Extreme Rage (rage) 1
    Frost Javelin (frost) 1
    Vengeance (ven) 1

    Reasoning:
    Maxing Tov is a given. After that you'll need storm at a high lvl, also a given.
    Rage has a horrendous delay... but its an AoE attack and you can mix it with storm.
    Frost Javelin is actually a nice buff. Added Ice damage (min+20 max+30 at lvl 1) and slows down target! Use it in PVP in combination with Shield Strike and your enemies will learn to stay away from atas out of sheer annoyance Especially if you make a low spirit build you will need this skill!
    Vengeance is our best Attack Skill. You can spam it and no pause between the 2 throws. BUT its a huge mana burn, so its a problem for low spirit builds.
    BTW: Fire javelin is your friend against KH and Stone Giant and Web!

    lvls: 72-80 with both lvl 80 Quests
    Split Javelin 5
    Triumph of Valhalla 10
    Lightning Javelin 1
    Storm Javelin 8

    Hall of Valhalla (HoV) 6
    Extreme Rage (rage) 1
    Frost Javelin (frost) 1
    Vengeance (ven) 3

    Reasoning:
    Now for my Ata I will leave Storm at 8... Why? Because I will leave spirit at 72-74 for Ats devine and I need to be able to cast Storm 5 times in row with full or near full mana to feel comfortable thats why!
    From now on I will max out Split Javelin because its a really nice hit and run skill and a nice finishing move for PvP.
    HoV at 6 and Ven only 3:
    Well it's my preference only really. The evade from HoV saved my ass too many times already and ven at 3 is already a huge mana burn and already nice damage to spam (but split is better!)
    Only reason I dont boost frost is because it only chains with farina (bugged i guess)
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    lvls 82-119
    Well honestly by now you won't need any guide because you figured your ata out by yourself
    I will max our Split first then invest in Windy. After thats maxed i dont know.
    For Elite Skills I will max out HoV and then most likely get ven to 5 or 7 or invest in frost, Im not sure.

    Some last tipps for equip:
    Do not age your stuff unless you're willing to age past +8 or unless youre hopelessly vain.
    Best mix for shields before lvl 70 is the +4% block murky mix.
    after 70 (extreme shield or higher) the best mix for shields is the devine +40 hp mix!
    Why? Because Typhoon and Omicron or Ratto and higher dont care about your defense and your block % only gets you so far. What you really need is a HP buffer to react to multiple hits in row or crits and block and evade fails!

    Thanks for reading my stuff

    PS: Can we PLEASE raise the max character setting for this forum section?
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    Those are some nice beginner guidelines.

    On the last tier, i agree, for that time everyone will probably know what will they want off their character. Diversity on high end builds means also the chance to actually find different atalanta's playing style, and thats awesome. I can't see when in some class all characters are all just about the same
    Couriosity killed the cat.

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    How about going for high storm javelin (with high spirit of course) before HoV for purely leveling purposes?

    I used to play ata a long time ago and might a new one in the future, what kind of skillbuild would be the absolute best for leveling?

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    Well the question is not HoV but Tov but in the end its the same of course.

    I *think* with the stom first build youll lvl faster in DS.
    however you should take into account the time spent manafarming...
    you will kill faster but farm more too...

    Wishie made a calculation where a lvl 4 Storm jav does more accumulated damage per manabar than a lvl 10 storm jav (at 72 spirit)
    the difference is quite remarkable actually.
    now what this does not take into account is the actual effectiveness of storm, because mobs are not static, which means a lesser storm needs to hit monsters more often to kill them and theres more chance to miss some of a group.

    I have lvl 6 Storm atm which is enough to kill *really* fast in dun3 hs solo (its actually really boring now)
    and quite fast in s1 HS
    I will invest 1 more point into storm at 80 from the quest and check then if i go for 8 but I wont go further.

    In my experience something between 6 and 8 is the best compromise in the end.

    But it could work with a celesto build if you have a good mana source.
    Problem then is that greats wont fill your bar anymore and youll need mysts :/
    Last edited by SelenisAaargh; September 24th, 2009 at 07:23 PM.
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    Welp im 85 now and have some additions to my experince with my build.

    Currently:
    Split 7
    Storm 7
    HoV 8
    Ven 3

    Str 128 for hp mixed titan armor, 50 health.
    You can call it a balanced semi-agi-build since for a real agi-build (balanced) I should have 110 str for supreme and still enough for 8x shields.
    (And more health...)

    Im never really in danger in i2 and can hutn just fine there.
    Training in s2 hs is also nice and only in danger when I slip attention (but then everyone can die anyway)
    Soloing S2 HS is possible but just a pain because of those darned Incubus...
    Without incubus it would be just fine

    The only problem I stumbled upon is that I cant solo Babel!
    Not because of his damage (AOE crit takes 75% hp, when youre prepared you can pot that away)
    But my damage output is not enough (even with murky force) to overcome hi HP regen.
    The main reason is my lvl 3 vengeance, it's just not enough DPS.

    Well solo Babel is something for 90 I guess :-/

    Split 7 is just an awesome punch
    Ill definitly max that one out!
    Delay got a little worse but not intolerable yet.
    Last edited by SelenisAaargh; October 19th, 2009 at 10:42 AM.
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    I like, thanks Selenis

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    My ata is 91, with skills:
    - Throwing 10
    - Windy 10
    - ToV 10
    - Split 7
    - HoV 4
    - Veng 10

    With stats:
    - Str 108
    - Spr 72
    - Tal 90
    - Agi 274
    - Health 50

    I don't do pvps. Just hunting solo/party. Was wondering if I need to increase my health (by lowering agi a little). Or adjust my skills? (Cause I was in dilemma of HoV 4 + Veng 10 V.S. HoV 10 + Veng 4) Please advice, thanks.


    Thanks to Tuomo for this very lovely siggy <3

    Awell ಌ 16 March 2009
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